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Getting started! Need to pick your brain

dragoninthemist Sep 05, 2006 01:30 AM

So, my fiance and I are rescuers here in the great state of Washington. And this year, for the first time, we decided to treat ourselves. Recently, we were given a nice 45-50ish octagon tank and thought that it would make a nice home for something aborial, unlike the poor leopards that were in it!

Well, after a bit of debate between red-eyes and dart frogs, we decided on making a dart frog enclosure.

We want to go all out for this, unlike the temporary homes we make for our rescues, we want to go all out with this tank. But, we don't know where to start! We want to do this right, and were hoping you good folks could point us in the right direction.

Set up kits, pages of information, heck even good breeders to buy from later.

Well, thanks in advance!
Raven and Dusty

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slaytonp Sep 05, 2006 07:32 PM

There are many ways to set up a dart frog tank. Some have waterways or drip wall systems or false bottoms, which are my favorites, as they help maintain the necessary humidty and help modify the temperatures. I've posted some pictures below of the most recent 20 gal. hex I just set up for a pumilio baby I need to separate from its parents relativey soon, because they are breeding again and will start picking on him. This is just one way of doing it, but its a really simple way.

You need to maintain a humidity above 80 degrees, and temperatures should generally range from 65 degrees at night (although some of the larger darts in particular can survive down to about 55 degrees F.) to 80 degrees during the day. A few can tolerate temperatures above this, but as a general rule, this range is what you should strive for. Also the rule of thumb is to allow 5 gallons of tank space per dart frog. You need to study up on the various species, however. Some such as tinctorius, azurius, and pumilios are best kept in mated pairs, since they are extremely territorial. Others such as D. leucomelas, D. imitator, D. galactonotus, D. castaneoticus, D. auaratus, P. terribilis, P vittatus, P. lugubris, get along in groups without much problem. D. reticulatus and D. fantasticus are thumbnails that really aren't good beginner frogs, and their sociability may vary.

I'd suggest that one of the first people to contact and read their care sheets are Patrick Nabors at Saurian and Black Jungle, although there are certainly other reliable breeders out there. I just haven't had personal experience with any but these two, at least not yet.

My very favorite of all the frogs I keep are the D. galatonotus, pumpkin orange "splash backs." This is due to their wonderfully bold personalities and ability to get along in larger groups.

Don't mix different color morphs of the same species, and don't mix species at all until you have some dart experience under your belt at least, and a very large tank.

I'll put the link to saurian at the bottom, which is saurian.net and all you need to do to contact Black Jungle is go to blackjungle.com
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
5 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

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