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Already there looks to be signs of aggression with the clutch. Many have bitten toes . I am amazed at the amount of shedded turnip grrens they are consuming.

I plan to give them some mealworms tomorrow on a limited scale to supplement the diet.

The last hatchling has died after 2 days. He seemed a little weak overall. Suprising that for animals that are so aggresive and territorial, they seem to congregate during sleeping times in the same locations piled on top of each other..
I think I am going to need alot more enclosures and separate the hatchlings ASAP because of the aggression..
Please note the bitten toes of the uro on the upper LHS and the blood on the lower RHS
Size of the hatchlings average
4.25" TTL
2.25" SVL
15 grams weight

well there are safety in numbers, even if it means someone else will get eaten when you don't, ha ha. i read once how if there is overcrowding beardie hatchlings will eat each others toes. i have no idea how true that is because i don't own any.

that little group is precious. sorry about the "runt" it is heartbreaking to have a lizard die that young.

i have some extra cages over here that the lizards can live in. i can't promise you will ever get them back, ha ha
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vonnie

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They are adorable! Sorry to hear that you lost the last little one. I can't believe how aggressive you said they are. Did you notice if it is actual aggression one on one or in the excitement to get to the food, someone's toes got in the way? You will probably have to set them up in small groups. Thanks for the information on the incubation. I will buy everything needed just in case I get any eggs next year. Best regards.

Pam
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1.1 varanus acanthurus brachyurus (Dorado & Dora)
1.1 u. macfadyeni (Amani & Abeba)
1.2 u. ornata (Husani, Zari, & Bintu)
1.1 u. maliensis (Njuru & Neo) Doug Dix
0.0.1 u. aegypticus (Halima)
0.1 pogona vitticeps (Sunni)
1.1 hyla chrysoscelis (Pudge & Squirt)
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Great job Ed! I have had the same aggression problems with acanthinurus just a couple days out of the eggs. I believe Debb has too with the Ebonies. I had to seperate the acanths into one in a cage. They have to be seperated too becuase they will kill each other. Egyptians seem to be almost cannibalisitic. I have had the babies take other lizards apart limb by limb. I had purchased some hatchling Egyptians and hatched out some desert iguanas hatch at the same time and had limited cage space so I put them together. Bad idea! After the killed and ate the di's they started on themselves. Some people I know make alsmost like a snake rack type thing for the babies. Off course it has to be lighted unlike a snake rack.
I do tend to agree with Greg about the incubation protocal of most lizards. I really do not think parameters are that critical but when talking to most uros breeders that might not be the case with uromastyx. It seems they need pretty tight parameters.
I see you uros bred out on the floor of a room. I did not know if you knew this but that was an old trick wiith beardeds and frilleds and I am not sure why it works but if you take a seamingly uninterested pair and take them out of their cage and put them on the floor in a room it triggers something and they almost breed immediately. Good luck and again great job.

Well I am trying to get ideas together about how and where to put the hatchlings.
I have tried putting way more food items in the enclosure and offering mealworms to limit food aggression.
I plan on dividing the existing cage into halfs and taking a 40 gal aquarium out of retirement and dividing that one as well.
Lighting and heat will be an obstacle....
These guys eat right out of my hand , but still try to eat their brothers hand......Yikes..
As far as the breeding, had no clue about the introduction on the floor, I was just showing my niece and her boyfriend the complicated courtship behavior and Voilla! Go figure!
Sorry to hear about your DI's . I have had an egyptian pick up an Acanthinurus in it's mouth and throw it across the cage like a rag doll, thankfully no real injury...scared the crap out of me. After seeing what happened after my first breeding attempt, and what happened with the Morroccan, I really believe that Uro's (especially Egyptians) should not be pair in the same cage.
Finding singular caging for 24 Babies is really a daunting task though!
Thanks for all the encouragement and posts...
Ed

>>Great job Ed! I have had the same aggression problems with acanthinurus just a couple days out of the eggs. I believe Debb has too with the Ebonies. I had to seperate the acanths into one in a cage. They have to be seperated too becuase they will kill each other. Egyptians seem to be almost cannibalisitic. I have had the babies take other lizards apart limb by limb. I had purchased some hatchling Egyptians and hatched out some desert iguanas hatch at the same time and had limited cage space so I put them together. Bad idea! After the killed and ate the di's they started on themselves. Some people I know make alsmost like a snake rack type thing for the babies. Off course it has to be lighted unlike a snake rack.
>> I do tend to agree with Greg about the incubation protocal of most lizards. I really do not think parameters are that critical but when talking to most uros breeders that might not be the case with uromastyx. It seems they need pretty tight parameters.
>> I see you uros bred out on the floor of a room. I did not know if you knew this but that was an old trick wiith beardeds and frilleds and I am not sure why it works but if you take a seamingly uninterested pair and take them out of their cage and put them on the floor in a room it triggers something and they almost breed immediately. Good luck and again great job.

LOL, thats some PILE of kids ya got there, hehehhee

I'm sorry ya lost one but , seems as though ya did really super well. Thats a handful of youngsters to feed and house. It is amazing how these lil guys are so aggressive, they look so sweet and helpless.

Cleo and I say Congratulations, many times over, LOL just awesome

EGYPTIANS RULE !

Cleo going up to bed (last year pic)

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PHEve / Eve

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WOW that's a big clutch!! Maybe you could try (besides seperating them) is to put the food in different corners too so they might not feel as much competition over the food? Just a thought. Good luck, and congrats!!!