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ok, I was wondering a couple things.

What are the genetics behind a rootbeer (corn)? It has emoryi rat in it, right? Anyone have a picture of a good example of a rootbeer?

I need a picture of what a good creamcicle looks like. The ones at the reptile show look just like regular amels or orange-amels to me. A cream is part emoryi and amel corn, or is it the other way around. I am just in overload with the show.

What is genetically behind a carmel, what does a good baby look like. I saw two different carmels, that looked totally different than each other. One looked just like my amber, the other was more amel-looking.

I know there is more that I wanted to ask, but right now, I need to set up my new snakes.
thanks for any pics
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Yesterday was the deadline for all complaints"

At least to my knowledge a creamsicle is an (amel) corn/emoryi bred together to produce offspring which are either bred together or bred to an amel.
Not sure how the rootbeer works...something like what you wrote I think...
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>>ok, I was wondering a couple things.
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>> What are the genetics behind a rootbeer (corn)? It has emoryi rat in it, right? Anyone have a picture of a good example of a rootbeer?

A rootbeer is simply the "normal" offspring of emoryi/corn mix.
I do not have any pictures at this time, sorry

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>>I need a picture of what a good creamcicle looks like. The ones at the reptile show look just like regular amels or orange-amels to me. A cream is part emoryi and amel corn, or is it the other way around. I am just in overload with the show.
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A creamsicle is an emoryi/corn mix expressing amelanism.
Creamsicles like amels can vary greatly.
Just like normals can vary
anerys can vary...etc...etc
one of my creamsicles and what I would consider a great example of what one would think when they hear creamsicle.

>>What is genetically behind a carmel, what does a good baby look like. I saw two different carmels, that looked totally different than each other. One looked just like my amber, the other was more amel-looking.

caramel is a color morph just like anery or amel.
This is from Chuck Pritzels web site...
Caramel - If you were to divert all red pigment production into yellow production, this is the phenotype that would result. The snake is colored in yellows, grays, and browns. There is no "red" or "orange" apparent on these snakes...

An amber is a hypomelanistic caramel.
Caramels and ambers can also vary greatly.
You can have light almost amber looking caramels and darker almost caramel looking ambers.

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>>I know there is more that I wanted to ask, but right now, I need to set up my new snakes.
>>thanks for any pics
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>>****Misty****
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>>www.sneakyserpents.com
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>>"Yesterday was the deadline for all complaints"

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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Rootbeers can be variable, as "normal" corns can vary in their appearance. Most that I've seen look very much like this one:

Third Eye

Because there are so many types of amel corns (reverse Okeetee, candy cane, sunglow) the appearance of creamsicles can vary. There are selectively bred "red" and "yellow" creams, but the "classic" phase is a pale, peachy orange:

Third Eye

They can vary quite a bit. Usually brown on grey. They usually start as dark hatchlings, then lighten in color as they age. Most of the hatchlings have a greenish tint to them but the camera doesn't do a good job of capturing it.

Thanks for the replies. I ended up buying a few higher priced snakes that I had not planned on, so did not get either a rotbeer or a creamcicle. I figure since I have an amber, I don't need a carmel (for now at least).
When I do get a cream, I want it to look just like the orange one pictured in this thred.
Jimmy, your post was very informative as always
thanks again.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Yesterday was the deadline for all complaints"