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Dendrobatid eco-experiment...

thekidgecko Sep 17, 2006 12:48 PM

I'm looking to do an experiment on Dendrobatid eggs and was wondering if anyone would have species reccomendations...Some ideas I have been looking at are the effects of pesticides/herbicides or slight warming (AKA global warming effects) on the eggs of Dendrobatid frogs. If anyone has any ideas that would be great! Or if you want to just give me a pair or two of frogs haha Only kidding, good luck with that right...So far I've been looking at a group of auratus/luecs or a few pairs of azureus. Perhaps tincs but unlikely. Any ideas, opinions, better research ideas, different species I should work with, or anything else would be GREATLY appreciated! If I can get this project going it will be taken to the my regional junior science fair and probably the Texas state science and Engineering fair. I will also be submitting a research paper on this to Texas ATM this year or next depending on when I finish.

Thanks a ton

Replies (4)

slaytonp Sep 22, 2006 01:42 AM

In the first place, you will have to get them to breed and raise some normal tadpoles as a control, and believe me, by that time, you will be too old to use it to prove that pesticides and such bother them more than YOU do, because just raising enough healthy dart frogs to breed, getr eggs from to experiment with will take more years than you have to complete the experiment within your lifetime. We all already know the answer anyway--Pesticides and such aren't good for living things. They kill life. Eggs don't do so hot when there are antibiological things around, meant to kill something else considered "bad" by humans, but not specific enough not to damage other organisms that are innocent or beneficial.

You don't need to experiment and do a paper on this stuff that has already been proven many times over,-- but simply ignored by those in charge with other agendas, who will continue to ignore it.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
5 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

thekidgecko Sep 22, 2006 05:14 PM

Your points are all quite viable. As for commonly used pesticides and herbicides, I am really looking for the LD50. Your point about this avenue of research is also why I was looking into the temperature variable. I'm not sure if that will produce any interesting or unexpected results however. As for time, I have plenty of it Using only the auratus, or perhaps the addition of azeures later, realistically I still have a good 50 years of research left in me haha... Doesn't matter if I ever really finish but it would be nice to get a few experiments in, if only on a clutch or two. This would also be a valuable experience as well, seeing as I am going into zoology as a field of study. Thanks for the input slayton, it is very much appreciated! (If I missed anything just tell me, I have had very little sleep lately and I think I'm going nuts haha...)

slaytonp Sep 22, 2006 07:15 PM

Well, good luck with your research. I was looking at it from my own prospective of not having much time left. I'm at the point that my frogs are probably all going to outlive me.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
5 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

thekidgecko Oct 28, 2006 09:14 AM

Just wanted to update. Looks like I might do incubation temp effect on the size of tadpoles at hatching. Should be interesting. Thought it might be more beneficial to the hobby as well. Just aquired some E. trivitattus (Orange, surinam) and they are already starting to show some breeding behavior. Should be neato...

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