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I have a clutch of 43 eggs incubating at 79degrees and 85 % humidity. About 1/3 look white and perfect, 1/3 are sunken in and shriviling, and the last have some sort of moss like build up. should i worry. I am wondering weather i should leave alone or do something. any input will help thankyou.,

Add a small amount of water around the shrivelled eggs. Wait a few days and see if any change has taken place. If they are more shrivelled add more water and repeat above...just take it slow so as not to drown the embryos. The ones with the fungus...just sprinkle a tiny bit of athletes foot powder on them and that should take care of it!

How many days have they been incubating for? Is this the female's first clutch?

She was eggbound awhile ago, this is her first fertile clutch. A little more of the eggs are starting to shrivle. i put some more water in, but it is looking worse. I am starting to think i might want to wait and let humdity decrease. is it ok to do this or should i be freaking out and lower humdity right away. on a side note, how long are panthers normally gravid for before laying eggs.

You said..."She was eggbound awhile ago"...you mean she never laid the eggs and couldn't? What was the end result of it?

You said..."this is her first fertile clutch"...sometimes the first clutch laid after the first mating consists of some fertile eggs and some infertile eggs...so that could be part of the reason that some are shriveling and molding. You didn't tell me how long they have been incubating for.

You said..."A little more of the eggs are starting to shrivle. i put some more water in, but it is looking worse. I am starting to think i might want to wait and let humdity decrease. is it ok to do this or should i be freaking out and lower humdity right away"...I'm not positive, but I think the first thing that too much humidity will do is make the eggs swell. If they swell too big, they can literally "explode".

What temperature did you say you were incubating them at?

This site has some information on incubating panther eggs...
http://adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/fpardalis.html

You asked..."on a side note, how long are panthers normally gravid for before laying eggs"...usually about 30 to 45 days.

Hope that the 1/3 that look good will hatch for you!

I have made an error in my subject. the eggs that i am incubating are veiled eggs. they are being kept at 79 degrees and have been for alittle more then a month. she did lay those eggbound eggs and went back to health, then she bred with a male and laied these eggs. I have a female panther right now that is on her 4th week of being gravid and i was just wondering how much longer i have. nothing has changed in the shriviling of the eggs. I just hope they bounce back. thank you.

Like I said just add some Athlete's Foot powder lightly over the moldy eggs and that will clear them up. Wait a few days on the shrivelled eggs and if they are not getting better or continue to get worse add a TINY amount of water. As was stated in another post...if you add too much water the eggs will explode. What I do to monitor my eggs is I keep track of the weights of the entire container. If the container starts to get lighter I just add a tiny bit of water until it reaches its starting point again.
Your panther should be laying within the next 2 weeks.
Hope this helps
Cheers,
Nick

Okay... you said they are not panther eggs but VEILED eggs...
You said..."they are being kept at 79 degrees and have been for alittle more then a month"...the temperature is good and the shrivelling and moldy eggs may be the ones that are not fertile...especially since you said..."nothing has changed in the shriviling of the eggs".Did you notice any difference in size or color of the ones that are shrivelling and molding compared to the ones that are still looking good? Infertile eggs will be less white and smaller from the get-go...and won't (of course) recover/bounce back if you add water.

You said..."she did lay those eggbound eggs and went back to health, then she bred with a male and laied these eggs"...then I wouldn't say that she was really eggbound. First clutches and infertile eggs aren't always laid on a "schedule". First clutches after the first mating in veileds often contain infertile eggs depending when she was mated in her cycle after she laid the infertile eggs.

In my previous post, I said that if you add too much water the eggs will likely "explode"....this is true of panther eggs, but veiled eggs are more forgiving....but there still must be a limit.

You said...I have a female panther right now that is on her 4th week of being gravid and i was just wondering how much longer i have....30 to 45 days is the norm for them to take after the mating. You're only at about 28 days. Has she been roaming the cage at all? Do you have a place in the cage for her to dig to show you that she is ready to lay the eggs? Two of the main causes for eggbinding are failure to provide a suitable place for the female to lay her eggs and allowing her to see you watching her when she digs. Husbandry issues are another big one. Physical issues (reproductive system "deformities", fused eggs, eggs that are too large to lay, etc.) can also cause it, but they aren't as common as the three reasons I already mentioned.

Hope this helps! If you have any more questions, just ask.