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As I have just gotten a little Leucistic Southern Pine. Just came today, so he's still settling in a bit.

Named him Steve, after the Crocodile Hunter. Best tribute I could give, and think it's a personable and very 'guy' name.

So here he is.

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0.2 chickens (Condor & Valentine)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.0 Leucistic Southern Pine (Steve)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

That is a gorgeous snake!!!!!!!! I love the pic of him looking up.
Great idea for his name as well.
Take care and welcome here!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

Ah, thank you. Yeah, it's funny how he does that. He occasionally periscopes to nearly a quarter of his body length. Don't know if it was because he was agitated in a new location, but it's pretty neat. And he has already rearranged his cage furniture a few times. Strong little guy. Looking forward to working with him after he settles.
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0.2 chickens (Condor & Valentine)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.0 Leucistic Southern Pine (Steve)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

Actually, he was most likely checking out his surroundings, as pits are more aware of what is around them then other snakes. One neat characteristic about them. That is why that pic rules so much!
Good find there!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

OK, Now that is a gorgeous snake.......but I wonder if anyone wonders as I do if it is a Lucy? I thought they had eyes that appeared much darker? It is beautiful no doubt. But I see many folks naming Southern Pines as they feel fit without regards to wrong or right. Especially in the patternless department. Would you tell us who produced it? Please do not think I am stating it is not a Lucy, it very well may be, I have not seen but a few over the past few years. I just see a lot of variation in Patternless Pines and often wonder what is what. Thanks
Tom Stevens
ps sorry for saying wonder so many times in a single post
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TomsSnakes.com

Ah, thanks. Yeah, I can't help but stare at the little fellow my own self. While Steve's in his hidebox, I might be looking at my own post a bit.

Got him from Isis Reptiles. His skin doesn't seem to have any pigment in it, save for the white. Most of the pictures of Leucistic pines I've scavenged up (not very many) do have darker eyes, but with both Texas Rat snakes and Black Rat snakes, a lot of those in their leucistic phase seem to have the grey. So I'm fairly confident.

Funny though. With their presence, (even at 18" ) looks, hardiness and reasonable price, it's odd that these guys aren't seen around more often.

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0.2 chickens (Condor & Valentine)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.0 Leucistic Southern Pine (Steve)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

"But I see many folks naming Southern Pines as they feel fit without regards to wrong or right."

Mostly people in Florida trying to get around the prohibition on selling nonalmels.
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

i don't see where you're getting your doubt from tom....that looks like a dead ringer for my leucistic mugitis i bought from mark bell years ago.sorry these pics don't show the eyes better,but they look just like those of his new arrival.

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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

Like I said, I thought the eyes were supposed to be different. I also know 3 different people who ordered Lucys from people online and were not even sure if what they received were indeed Leucistics. There seems to be "shades" of white, and I thought they were supposed to be extremely bright white. Not bone white....or offwhite........or whatever. I did mention I have not seen many of them, and that from what I have seen in ads I see a lot of variation[in patternless Pines in geenral]. This is what I do not understand....I just do not think Leucistics should be variable? I was only looking for opinions because I am thinking some Patternless may be so light,,,,,they're close to looking white. Those could be passed off as Leucistic. These Patternless Pines are indeed variable, I have seen pinkish, reddish, tan, brown yellow and also pink with white and well the list goes on. The nicest one I ever saw was extremly white with eyes so dark they looked black in the pics. I am not going to say if one is or is not, I have talked withf riends off the forums about this. Of all Pits Southerns seem to be the most variable with no explanation of how or why. The Snow is a perfect example.....Snow.......so where are the Anery/Axanthics? Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

yeah, that's a lucy tom though it does appear it's eyes are kinda light. luecistic is a greek word meaning clear or colorless but i've seen them in white, blush pink & my favorite, pale orange......woo-woo! here's a pic of a guy i've had for several years w/ no known history. he's half patternless & half lightly patterned w/ a pink overwash. anyone know what 'niche' he falls into 'cause i don't. btw tom, that normal southern female i got from you 2 years ago is knocking down 2 small rats at a time. thanks again........

is your name chosen because you like carnivorous plants? Drosera happens to be the genera name for the Sundews, just curious.
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Frank Roberts
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John Rodriguez and Frank Roberts or vise versa

Yup, I keep a few of them. Aside from their other merits, I just really appreciate how they're supposed to be overwatered.

Do you raise any?

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0.2 chickens (Condor & Valentine)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.0 Leucistic Southern Pine (Steve)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

Well I have had several types of CP over the years, but actually a friend of mine progates sundews, pitcher plants, butterworts, bladderwarts, and venus flytraps. He is truly gifted at it and has taught me a bit about them over they years, he started the trend in hamburg pennsylvania of sellin carnivorous plants at reptile shows in the early 90's
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Frank Roberts
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John Rodriguez and Frank Roberts or vise versa