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jobi Sep 20, 2006 10:15 AM

Reptile keepers have the responsibility to find better ways of caging there captives, in recent years herpetoculture has progressed in many ways, we now understand that open cages are for birds not reptiles.

The need for cages that can hold temps and humidity is of vital importance to reptiles, ideally open top cages should not be used, if so then specially designed covers should be made with restricted ventilation at the cooler end.

A better cage will have side excess and side ventilation at mid level or lower, no need for large ventilation areas, don’t forget that servicing the cages also contribute to air exchange. The idea is to keep the environment inside the cage not inside your house.

Last week at a RE/Max convention this topic came up, the keeping of reptiles is on the same level as hydroponics culture, this of course is on an insurance point of view.

Before you jump the gun and flood your locale real estate agency, read this!

Reptile keeping is not being targeted by insurance brokers because they are reptiles, they are not targeted because of electric accident possibilities, they are not targeted because some reptiles represent a potential danger to humans, no they are targeted because terrariums and vivariums expel humidity in your house that will eventually infiltrate the walls and start moulding the main structure, this mould is highly toxic and have caused many illness, especially to kids. The structural damage can not be cleaned, damaged structural components must be replaced.

This is why screen cages and open top cages should not be used.

Regardless of what anyone says, insurance companies can refuse to insure you if you keep reptiles.
Reptiles are an obligatory divulgation, if you don’t advise your insurance they can refuse to pay any damage regardless of if your reptiles are the cause or not.
Farther more retiles are obligatory divulgation when selling your house, the new owners can and will take actions if you omit saying that your house was home to reptiles.

This is the law, its not about me or any real estate banner, I have no idea on how to change this or who to call about it, however I will make sure my reptiles are properly housed and that my reptile room has a dehydration system.

Pleas do your own research, no need to take it on the messenger,
This upsets me as much as it upsets you. I will have to make major changes if I want to keep working with my animals.

Ps. Most brokers don’t know exactly what is the problem with reptiles, they will point you in the wrong direction, don’t waste your time and find an other better informed source.

Replies (2)

-ryan- Sep 22, 2006 10:36 PM

however, my mother is manager of an insurance agency and she has assured me constantly that unless they ask you a question that would result in you directly admitting that you keep reptiles within your house, it does not matter. You aren't obligated to admit to it if it isn't directly relevant...or something like that. I'll have to ask her specifically for some more info on it.

I think the main point that I liked about your post though was just stating the fact that we need to do more as far as housing our reptiles. I could see that trying to breed tortoises in my bedroom wasn't working out, so I moved them into my basement (in the setup I described in an earlier post). If I had the money (and hadn't invested so much money into other caging), I would do similar setups for almost all of my reptiles.

Right now the big project is constructing a better top for the plastic watering trough they are in. Pieces of wood tend to work okay, and they are a great place to suspend lights from, but I think there's a lot of room for improvement. I'd really like to get my hands on some thick plexi and make a nice closed cover out of that.

Neal_ Sep 23, 2006 03:53 PM

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