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Morphing Question

GDeHavenIV Sep 21, 2006 12:05 PM

I posted a similar question in the Burmese forum, but I also have a Columbian Red Tail that I'd like to breed. How do I get a morph? What the heck do I have to do so that I can get something really rare and special? Please let me know! Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!
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George
1.0.0. Albino Burmese Python (Tyranus)
1.0.0. Columbian Red Tail Boa (Madmartigan)

Replies (3)

rainbowsrus Sep 21, 2006 12:32 PM

If you're looking to have a morph, then you'll either have to buy it or produce it....duh. Since you stated you have a columbian and did not indicate it had any morph genetics, I'll assume it does not. so.....

1) to buy a really rare and special morph - gather together a large wad of cash. For example a sunglow jungle on pkreptiles.com

2) to produce a really rare and special morph, IMO, first look around and decide what you like. Then find out the genetics behind it. Next, from the genetics, decide how you want to get there and how much you're willing to spend and how long of a time commitment you're willing to make. Lastly, purchase the animals you want/need to produce the morph you want and get to work feeding/cleaning.

For example, a snow boa. That is a combination of two recessive genetic traits, Albino and Anerythristic. So a snow boa would have teo each albino and anery genes. To get a snow boa, each parent must have at least one each albino and anery gene. So for a one generation plan, you could go with any of the following animals:

DH snow (one albino gene, one anery gene)
Anery het snow (two anery genes, one albino gene)
Albino het snow (two albino genes, one anery gene)
Snow (two albino genes, two anery genes)

DH snows are the least expensive
Snows are the most expensive

DH snows would give you the lowest percentages of snows in the litter while giving you the highest percentages of possible het animals (may have one recessive gene, tow recessive genes or no recessive genes, can't tell by looking)

A good pairing would be:
albino het anery X anery het albino, would produce on average:
25% snow
25% albino het anery
25% anery het albino
25% DH snows

The real advantge is with each parent having a pair of recessive genes, each offspring would have at least one each of albino and anery genes.

>>I posted a similar question in the Burmese forum, but I also have a Columbian Red Tail that I'd like to breed. How do I get a morph? What the heck do I have to do so that I can get something really rare and special? Please let me know! Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!
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>>George
>>1.0.0. Albino Burmese Python (Tyranus)
>>1.0.0. Columbian Red Tail Boa (Madmartigan)
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.26 BRB
11.16 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

slithering_serpents Sep 21, 2006 02:06 PM

well what morphs do you like.? Some morphs are easier to produce than others. On the low end you could make hypos with your snake and a hypo mate, on the high end you could do it with a Motley. These are called co-dominant or incomplete dominant genes. Some morphs have a recessive gene though like anerythrism or albinism. If you want to make those you can't get there with a normal individual, you need hets for albino or an albino and a het albino to make them, likewise with anerys. To get a real special snake though you will sepnd many hours pouring over the classifieds, and you will do it everyday for a long time until you find the right individual. Or you can spend hours and hours looking at sites of the people who produce the special morph you're looking for. Maybe you'll never find the right mate if it is all that special too.

I would ask why you want to do this too? I think most of us do it to make the best snake possible. If you are doing this for money I don't think you should do this. There are better investments to have.

just my .02
Caden

DavidKendrick Sep 21, 2006 08:33 PM

Are you talking about being the first person to create this "New Morph"....I understand the wanting to produce a morph, I myself have dreamed of being one of those people who put two normal looking snakes together and producing something new and amazing.... But that is rare...VERY RARE, and the chances of you producing a new Morph is slim to none, you probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. The other option is to have connections with importers, most of the morphs on the market today came from the wild, Even then you have to have such good connections that you would have to be one of the first people to get your hands on that newly imported morph to work with them...again very rare....

I think thats pretty much everyones dream that works with snake morphs, is that you produce something that nobody has ever produced. But to actually acomplish that goal is very rare, thats why when it happens its so special.

Good luck in your goal
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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

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