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Hey, just picked up a delta dash shipment and the babies were very cold. I'd say easily colder than any shipment I've ever received.

How cold is too cold?

At what point will I know they are OK?

They were all relatively motionless. Including as I pulled them out and turned them a bit, they did not respond to loevel their heads.

All 2006 babies, three from early this year and 4 less than a month old.

Duh, I am very worried so any replies would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.26 BRB
11.16 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I would say if they die, they were too cold. Or if they end up with a URI. You'll know in the next 24 hours. If they perk up they should be fine, if not see above.
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- Mike Fourquet

CLOACA HERPS

They are perking up, two of the little ones even hissed at me.

Will keep y'all posted on their progress.

>>Hey, just picked up a delta dash shipment and the babies were very cold. I'd say easily colder than any shipment I've ever received.
>>
>>How cold is too cold?
>>
>>At what point will I know they are OK?
>>
>>They were all relatively motionless. Including as I pulled them out and turned them a bit, they did not respond to loevel their heads.
>>
>>All 2006 babies, three from early this year and 4 less than a month old.
>>
>>Duh, I am very worried so any replies would be greatly appreciated.
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>13.26 BRB
>>11.16 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.26 BRB
11.16 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

cold he was life less and I actually thought he was dead. Then the delta guy told me he saw this earlier in the week with a ball python. He said the guy cupped him in his hand to build warmth and slowly he came to life. I did this and sure enough he came to life and then locked on my fingure for 5 minutes!LoL. Mind you this guy was lifeless. limper than limp and I thought forsure he was dead.

I think your guy will be fine. Just make sure you rise his body temp SLOWLY. Too much heat too fast might not be good for it.

Goodluck,Ruben

They are getting more fiesty and acting like neonates.

>>cold he was life less and I actually thought he was dead. Then the delta guy told me he saw this earlier in the week with a ball python. He said the guy cupped him in his hand to build warmth and slowly he came to life. I did this and sure enough he came to life and then locked on my fingure for 5 minutes!LoL. Mind you this guy was lifeless. limper than limp and I thought forsure he was dead.
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>>I think your guy will be fine. Just make sure you rise his body temp SLOWLY. Too much heat too fast might not be good for it.
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>> Goodluck,Ruben
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.26 BRB
11.16 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
...Used to be that many snakes got shipped with no insulation. It was common for them to arrive very cold. Of course there were much higher losses in shipping back then than today. I think Boa Constrictors can take several hours with their body temperature down into the low 50s where they seem lifeless and then come back fine. At that temperature they feel like they are colder than they really are. I think that the length of time that they are below 60 is as important as how cold they actually get. Shipping at this time of year can be a problem. Many areas are still way too hot to use heat packs but some other places have had morning frosts.
Jeff

>>Hey, just picked up a delta dash shipment and the babies were very cold. I'd say easily colder than any shipment I've ever received.
>>
>>How cold is too cold?
>>
>>At what point will I know they are OK?
>>
>>They were all relatively motionless. Including as I pulled them out and turned them a bit, they did not respond to loevel their heads.
>>
>>All 2006 babies, three from early this year and 4 less than a month old.
>>
>>Duh, I am very worried so any replies would be greatly appreciated.
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>13.26 BRB
>>11.16 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Well, this morning they seem fine and none the worse for the trip. I sometimes forget how hardy reptiles really are, they have been around much longer than us and will probably still be here long after we are gone.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB, selectively bred from good stock)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
13.26 BRB
11.16 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

To make a long story short, I had Fed/Ex put my shipment in a storage freezer. They told me the plane was late they arrived on and missed their departure in Memphis. Some how they never made any flights for 3 more days. No one knew what happen. They were found in a storage freezer. Shipped monday and I got them Sat. b/c I went and got them! I opened the box and pulled an adult Ghost female out by her head in a perfect ball! Like she was frozen! Then the next thing I saw was a tongue in slow motion. She was alive?!? Also had a Dbl het striped/albino in the box (adult)...
OK, Short!
They lived and doing fine!

do you believe that if a Boa was to be put into this predicament where the temp gradually drops, would their body functions slow down and they go into sort of a hibernation state? I ask because my father-in-law believes this and he was also told this is true from a reptile specialist at the rehab clinic for animals that they work at. I honestly don't believe this because being that they are from humid and hot regions they have no need for this sort of function where they need to adapt to the cold, thats just my 2 cents. Any opinions? Later guys.
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1.3 BCI
0.2 White Spot Geckos
0.0.1 Marbled Gecko
0.0.1 Flowerhorn
0.0.1 Green Terror

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