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You ain't going to believe this one

HerpZillA Sep 22, 2006 02:04 PM

At the shop, a breeder gave us a couple of odd king morphs that were not eating for him. I found one dead last week. And after reading all the posts in here about feeding defective corns off to king snakes I thought, why not try one of my non eating anery corns.

I popped the anery corn in the kings tub. The king showed immediate interest, then nothing. I figured, the king was on his last leg, I'd just leave them and see if he eats the corn at night. Now that was Tuesday.

I worked yesterday, I was looking thru a pile of tubs and found one marked non eater, and one little fat anery corn? At first I though I must have messed up. Then I looked again, The anery was HUGE compared to a baby corn eating a pinky. Then it hit me, it was the Kings tub. The corn snake ate the king! I've been told to take a picture as most people will not believe it, and the anery may up chuck the king. But I know the corn ate this baby king snake. I'm not sure how often this has happened, but I know a few guys feeding corns in groups that have lost a few from the corns eating the others. but that is due to the rodent smell on their heads..
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

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Replies (4)

draybar Sep 22, 2006 04:44 PM

>>As we all know by now, corn snakes will eat corns snakes.
It seems to be most prevelant in "non-feeding" hatchlings.
I really wonder if this is also more prevelant in the wild.
The fact that the little corn ate the little king makes this seem to be an even higher likelyhood.
They are obviously oportunistic when born in the wild and it would seem logical that a variety would be the key to survival.
If they all only started on pinkie mice the food supply would not meet the demand. With a variety in diet there is more food available.
We beat nature's odds breeding in captivity but even captive breeding shows some of the babies really aren't meant to make it.
Some are meant to feed other reptiles such as king snakes and other snake eaters. Some probably meant to feed birds and small mamals and some are probably simply meant to be fertilizer.
I think it may also be safe to assume some of the hatchlings are meant to sustain their siblings.
Man, wouldn't it be cool to have the means to actually track an entire clutch, in the wild, from hatching to yearling?
Sorry to ramble...I am just thinking out loud, so-to-speak.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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HerpZillA Sep 22, 2006 04:53 PM

maybe people say eastern hog nose, even if eating mice, do not do well long term. If so, obviously something is missing.

I wish i had seen this eating though.. Did the king try first? And the corn fended him off? Did the king die first? many corns do not constrict on first meals. So if both alive it had to be a battle.

And do I now have a corn that will only eat appalachian king snakes?

OFF topic, i posted requests for questions for a web maze..

A rare look at a small portion of just the flow chart of the maze.

http://www.herpzilla.com/maze/test.jpg
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

duffy Sep 23, 2006 12:01 PM

Let us know if he keeps it down or not. If he does, and then refuses pinks, what next? :D

HerpZillA Sep 23, 2006 07:33 PM

OK, my apologies. I worked today and was going thru cages, and found I had put the goini king in with 2 non feeding corns.

NO the corns did not eat the king, and the king did not eat either corn. The kind was dead today, But not due to the corns, just a non eater.

The fat corn I found earlier was in a cage the owner tried a small pinky rat on and the baby corn ate it. That is why it was so large.

So all I can say is OOPS, My bad! lol

That is all


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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

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