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I know a lot of pit fans aren't too big on hybrids/crosses, but I was wondering if anyone had made this cross? Also, I'd be interested in hearing what others had to say about this cross. Obviously, the first generation would just be hets that wouldn't look that great. The goal would be to breed that generation together to produce an axanthic, and then breed that to another northern pine, etc. I was thinking that if you had a nice northern pine, then the axanthic gene could really clean it up, making it really white.

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Frank Roberts
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John Rodriguez and Frank Roberts or vise versa

I suspect a troll here, but I will bite anyway. For information's sake there are already completely white and black northern pines so your project would not be unique. Additionally mutts are not something most people and particularly pit people will have anything to do with.

So I am not sure what your purpose would be except to prove that you can if you want to, which is definitely the case.

Go to the hybrid forum you will get a lot more input there!

john Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Honestly, I'm not trying to be a troll. I don't currently own any pituophis. Actually, I don't even own any colubrids. I still occasionally browse through this forum. I've seen some outstanding northern pines, but I've never seen any with snow white ground color. It's usually cream colored at the best. The one pictured a few threads down is pretty close to white, but it's hard to really tell because the pic is sort of blue.

Like I said before, I wasn't trying to be a troll. And although I had a feeling most people would automatically dismiss the thought of breeding these two together without giving it any real thought, I figured I'd give it a try anyway. So, all of the hybrid, mutt, etc. thoughts aside, you don't think the axanthic gene would lend anything to an already really nice northern pine?

Some northerns really can get pure white in the background. Here is my highest white northern.

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Genesis 1:1

I agree with John. There are some very bright white northerns out there already. The axanthic gene wouldn't not automatically clean up a line. Through selective breeding, one can get very nice colors but that would be up to the individual. What one person thinks is awesome, another may not give it a second glance.

Scott Robinson

I guess if you were bored enough you could cross the two snakes as long as the hatchlings went into the freezer later on or used as feeders. I wish there were more people working with more rarer animals these days instead of jungle corns and ball pythons. You can't even find a nice regular phase southern pine on the classifieds but the jungle corns are coming out of the woodwork as well as other hybrids. Not a pit picture,but still cool,female southern hog. Kevin Fisher