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After a couple of sheds....

Two came out like this, both males.

Father is a "Lavender" from Great Valley Serpentarium
Mother is a Ghost, het for albinism

I have bred Ghost with other recessive genes and nothing unusual.
I have bred "Lavender" from Great Valley Serpentarium to other recessive genes and nothing unusual.

But this combo...????

Kerby...

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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
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Specializing In California Kingsnakes

And the rest came out like this.

They are definitely double hets (Ghost and "Lavender/GVS).

But they are different looking as well.

Darn another whole clutch I will have to keep. LOL

Kerby...

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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com
Specializing In California Kingsnakes

Kerby et. all -

About how many "lavender" strains are out there that you are aware of?

My "lavender" is from Checker Belly Farms. I don't know where they got their stock from. I sent an e-mail but got no response, but they are still going to shows etc. - I'll call them in a month or two when all the shows are done and see if they have more info on the origin. I probably should have gotten more info when I bought her.

She's clearly hypo, but I don't think she is as "lavender" looking as some of the lavenders I've seen. I don't know if it is "correct" to call any T pos hypo lavender, or if that should be reserved for certain ones.

Anyway, I'm going to attempt to breed her, er, I mean see if she wants to breed next year with a normal WC male, and if I get a clutch that hatches, I'll probably hold back two hets and then buy mate lavs from the same breeder, but I might want to experiment with some of the other hypo cal kings to see what strains she is compat with.

A wiki on cal king genetic morphs would be sweet, with known lines and which lines are geneticly compat etc.

It sure would be nice to have more organized naming systems for the different strains of lavender, and to know which lines are the same (or compatible) gene causing the morph - and which lines are not the same gene.

I apologize if I used the word gene incorrectly.
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3.0 WC; 0.3 CB L. getula californiae
0.1.1 WC; 0.0.3 CH Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata

The cal king industry needs to be uniform in the labeling aspect.

We can go to one extreme and call them all hypomelanistics with albino on one end and melanistic on the other. But we don't do that.

We are pretty fixed on what is: albino, hypermelanistic (Davis, Mendota, Baja, Chocolate Banana etc..), Ghost-although I think that name misrepresents, Blue-Eyed Blondes, and Lavenders....

To me a Lavender (a recessive gene) describes what a snake looks like, the color lavender. Before I came along there were other recessive genes (not compatible) that were also called "Lavender". Hence the confusion today. And they are not compatible, hence they should have different, non-confusing labels.

What needs to happen is for the cal king industry to establish a standard on description names, at least for the recessive genes. "Ghost" is confusing because Ghost in other species refers to something else. "Snow" is incorrect as in other species it is a combination of anery/amel.

As more cal kings start to display 2, 3 and more recesiive genes at the same time - what are they going to be called?

There are probably up to 10 different single recessive genes in cal kings today. The Blizzard displays two of these (albino & hypermelanistic). Do a matrix chart and see all of the possibilites. I've been working on some of those for a few years now.

Kerby...
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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com
Specializing In California Kingsnakes

that snake looks like the sire... maybe your female is a ghost 2x het (amel and Hypo)

killer snake... just makes me wanna get back into cali kings even more.

Thanx for sharing

~ZF
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I like that idea because that would make it easy.

A couple of people had e-mailed me and were talking about ultra amels, ultra hypos, etc... Too confusing for me.

Kerby...
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Lonesome Valley Reptiles
www.lonesomevalleyreptiles.com
Specializing In California Kingsnakes