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Photos of male Moellendorfi

Kestrel Sep 24, 2006 11:23 PM

Ok well uh, I don't know why my other post and all its replies was deleted. Woulda been nice if they had emailed me about it or something. Oh well.

Here's a couple photos of the male Moell, the female is still in shed. Will post photos of her as well and some better pics of the pair once she sheds. This guy is awesome.

For those who didn't read my deleted post, he's about 7ft in length, the female is about 5-6ft. They're both 5-6 years old, raised from CH babies. I picked them up this weekend at a local show. They're also semi proven(the female having layed infertiles this year).


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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

Replies (11)

RandyWhittington Sep 25, 2006 01:23 AM

Beautiful Brie!
I was wondering what happened to your post from yesterday myself? I knew I had posted about your pair yesterday. I wondered for a minute there if I was losing my mind when I just looked for the first time since yesterday. Randy

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 09:34 AM

Yeah, I really dont know. I went to add on these photos, and the post was gone. Who knows. This site isn't like the old days anymore.
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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

Steve_Craig Sep 25, 2006 10:43 AM

Beautiful snakes Brienne. Those are some impressive ratsnakes. I was reading one of my ratsnake books and it was saying the survival rate for WC Moellendorfi in captive care can be very low. I guess if that's not out dated information, and still holds true today, someone must be doing a good job. Your snakes look pretty darn good to me.

Steve

ratsnakehaven Sep 25, 2006 11:38 AM

That's an awesome snake, Brie. I kept those guys for a number of years. If c/h, they are fairly easy after the first year. That first year is the hardest, after that there are some tricks you can use, and they should thrive. Main reasons I stopped keeping them is their large size and the fact they require fairly high humidity. Good luck with them...TC

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 07:14 PM

>>That's an awesome snake, Brie. I kept those guys for a number of years. If c/h, they are fairly easy after the first year. That first year is the hardest, after that there are some tricks you can use, and they should thrive. Main reasons I stopped keeping them is their large size and the fact they require fairly high humidity. Good luck with them...TC

Thanks. Yeah, I never wanted to deal with buying and trying to raise the Ch babies. Over the years I had the opportunity to buy captive raised adults, just never had the cash. Just had to wait my turn I guess. Right now they're living in large swear boxes in a rack, on carefresh. Seem to be very happy, no trying to push their way out or anything. The lady who owned them kept them on aspen in a 3ft cage, all together. She said they always had bad sheds. Wonder why.
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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

ratsnakehaven Sep 25, 2006 09:55 PM

>>>>That's an awesome snake, Brie. I kept those guys for a number of years. If c/h, they are fairly easy after the first year. That first year is the hardest, after that there are some tricks you can use, and they should thrive. Main reasons I stopped keeping them is their large size and the fact they require fairly high humidity. Good luck with them...TC
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>>Thanks. Yeah, I never wanted to deal with buying and trying to raise the Ch babies. Over the years I had the opportunity to buy captive raised adults, just never had the cash. Just had to wait my turn I guess. Right now they're living in large swear boxes in a rack, on carefresh. Seem to be very happy, no trying to push their way out or anything. The lady who owned them kept them on aspen in a 3ft cage, all together. She said they always had bad sheds. Wonder why.
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>>Brienne Earnst

You'll probably have to put a moist hide in with them, or somethin', when they get ready to shed. I used to keep them in a deep tank with 1 gal. water jugs and an inch or two of aspen bedding and a large hide filled with paper towels, etc. I'd spray the tank once in awhile, especially before offering food. They are secretive, but usually come out in the early morning, and sometimes in the evening. Good luck...

Terry

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 11:29 PM

>>You'll probably have to put a moist hide in with them, or somethin', when they get ready to shed. I used to keep them in a deep tank with 1 gal. water jugs and an inch or two of aspen bedding and a large hide filled with paper towels, etc. I'd spray the tank once in awhile, especially before offering food. They are secretive, but usually come out in the early morning, and sometimes in the evening. Good luck...
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>>Terry

Thanks Terry. Right now I have them in large sweat boxes in a rack with the heat turned off. Have them on carefresh, and pull the tub out just a crack each night to mist them. I find carefresh holds humidity pretty well in a tub, but i'll prolly put them on cypress when I move them to a more permenant enclosure. My current delimma though is if I want to put them together in a large enclosure, or keep them seperated. I like to keep snakes seperated if possible.
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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 06:47 PM

>>Beautiful snakes Brienne. Those are some impressive ratsnakes. I was reading one of my ratsnake books and it was saying the survival rate for WC Moellendorfi in captive care can be very low. I guess if that's not out dated information, and still holds true today, someone must be doing a good job. Your snakes look pretty darn good to me.
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>>Steve

Yeah, they have like a 99% mortality rate. CH babies aren't too much better. Thats why I was so happy about these guys. Originally CH babies, raised in captivity for 5-6 years. So they are for the most part out of the woods. I don't know what this lady did but it sure worked.
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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

donv Sep 25, 2006 02:49 PM

It would be really cool to see a picture of someone holding that guy, to better appreciate the size. You sure did get lucky, I've never even seen a wild caught one at a show let alone captive bred.

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 06:55 PM

When the female sheds im going to take them both outside for some higher quality photos, and have my boyfiend snap some pictures of me holding them for size reference..

Here's a photo I took of the seller's daughter with their other male. He was huge, but only a little bit bigger then the male I brought home. Looks much smaller in this photo for some reason. LOL. Probably because part of his body is looped behind her right arm, and the tail is wrapped around her left.
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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

Kestrel Sep 25, 2006 07:12 PM

A friend snapped a couple photos while at the show. He's uh.. not the best photographer.. But it kinda gives a size reference. lol.

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Brienne Earnst


DeviantArt Photo Gallery

Keeping mostly Morelia and Elaphe ssp.

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