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Quad eggs

mikey1two Sep 25, 2006 04:20 PM

I have a female Quad that laid about 8 or 9 eggs god knows when! There is a possibility that they are fertile, but can't be for sure.
She lives in the natural sun outdoors in SoCAl. I had her for about 2 years old (WC).
When I found the eggs (note that she ignored the pot with soil and laid her eggs back in the corner of the cage visible from the top).
Problem is:
First only 5 eggs are ok in the since that they are olval shapped. The other 4 were dented with little holes in them (I take it they were bad!)
Second the eggs are not white...more like a brown color, fut firm to the touch!
Eggs range from .75-1 inch. Because they are not white, does that mean they are not good? should I incubate then anyways? Any other info will be apriciated!

Thanks Mikey1two

Replies (6)

kinyonga Sep 26, 2006 11:34 AM

First of all, I have never had quad eggs (I have had lots of other chameleon eggs that I hatched).

You said..." have a female Quad that laid about 8 or 9 eggs god knows when! There is a possibility that they are fertile, but can't be for sure" and "When I found the eggs (note that she ignored the pot with soil and laid her eggs back in the corner of the cage visible from the top)"...if the place they were laid was suitable they might be okay if incubated. By "visible from the top"...do you mean that they weren't buried? If they weren't buried and sat there for more than a few minutes, I would think they would not be any good.

You said..."Second the eggs are not white...more like a brown color, fut firm to the touch! Eggs range from .75-1 inch. Because they are not white, does that mean they are not good?"...if they were small (the size you described is not small)and yellowish, then I would say they are not good. If they are firm but not hard, they might be good too...but as I said above, if they sat unburied for too long, they likely are no good.

You said..."should I incubate then anyways?"...its always worth a shot. I never throw away an egg until I'm sure its not good.

This site has some information on how to incubate the eggs...
http://www.chameleonjournals.com/icham/icham.php?The_Species=Furcifer lateralis

Hope this works!

mikey1two Sep 26, 2006 05:27 PM

They were not buried all the way, but in a spot out of direct sunlight (note that this is a montane species-the hmidity was and always is on the uper end.
Turns out that the ones that were on the bottom were the only "good" ones. Since yesterday 2 of the 5 started to become sunken and as best as I can describe had mold growing on it!
Eggs are more of a light brown color, similar to the brown chicken eggs!
I guess I will have to wait til they go bad!

Thanks for the info and any other info that may arise!
Mikey

kinyonga Sep 26, 2006 06:57 PM

How are you keeping them now that they are (I'm assuming) dug up?

WillHayward Sep 26, 2006 09:37 PM

Chameleon eggs that have sat out and dried and hardened have hatched successfully- though they have hatched babies 1/3 regular size because the egg never grew at all during incubation. I am reffering to a specific clutch that was just recently hatched by a pal of mine, that some of you know-Ill let them reveal themselves should they want to. It will be neat to see how this affects their growth rate and their overall size.
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kinyonga Sep 27, 2006 07:48 AM

What species of chameleon was it that the hardened eggs of hatched?
I would have expected that the shell would be too hard for the baby to break out of and I'm surprised that there could be any air/water exchange with the shell being hard.

WillHayward Sep 27, 2006 10:05 AM

Oustalets. The shells softened over time, but never grew.
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