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While Our Genetic Minds Are In Overdrive

vcaruso15 Sep 26, 2006 09:10 AM

Can someone explain these. This was from breeding Possible Supersalmon 50% possible het albino to her half brother Albino. There were four sunglows and they are all paradox. The rest of the litter were salmons. There were 13 live and 17 slugs in the litter and all the babys are female.


Replies (8)

maizeysdad Sep 26, 2006 09:11 AM

I have no explanation. But I must confess to Boa lust!
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2.1.0 Kidletts
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0.0.1 Okeetee Corn
2.2.0 BCI
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boafan1 Sep 26, 2006 09:36 AM

All I can Say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fourquet Sep 26, 2006 09:56 AM

are these the same paradox sunglows that were posted a month or two ago, or a new batch?
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- Mike Fourquet

Cloaca Herpetoculture
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vcaruso15 Sep 26, 2006 10:19 AM

n/p

ChrisGilbert Sep 26, 2006 10:31 AM

from the start.
First, from the pictures I have seen, it is hard to tell what is going on with the snakes.
The do not take on the Paradox appearance of say a Paradox Albino. Some of yours have Salmon areas, not just black specks.

I think yours are more related to the Calicos from Snow breedings, or Argentine crosses.

Ralph Davis' freak Snow has one Anery eye and one Albino eye. It has not bred to prove that it is a true Snow. It may or may not be, were the mutations transfered completely? That is a question we have to ask.

View it like this, is it actually Albino, or Anery, or does it just have some characteristics of this mutation.

Part of the problem a lot of Calicos don't have definate lineages, a lot of them are littered with possibly hets. This can cause problems. Some people think their het proved out because they got offspring that are partially Albino. Until the animal produces a full Albino I would not consider it a proven het, unless there is something truely going on that affects every Albino offspring of this animal.

There have been linked or triggered mutations in other animals, that only show when connected to some other mutation.

I mentioned when Mike first released the Paradigm of a similar mutation in Corn Snakes. I want to bring that up again, but I will keep the breeder confidential. They have a T-positive that only manifests itself when bred to any other Amelanistic Corn Snake. Breeding one of the T-plus to a normal and breeding "hets" together doesn't reproduce it. Only by breeding the T-plus to an Amel can it be reproduced.

vcaruso15 Sep 26, 2006 11:57 AM

Yea I wonder that same thing and I do almost consider them to be calico, because they do show alot of hypo traits. Mom has a date with a Moltley possible het albino this year so hopefully I will get some answers to her genetics there. Calico Sunglow Motley I'll take it lol.

PanamaRed Sep 26, 2006 12:38 PM

SWEET! Imagine those as adults! I think they go to the paradox or calico category, but those really look different.. Nothing better than a litter to interesting to sell..
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Ed Lilley, www.constrictorsnw.com
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vcaruso15 Sep 26, 2006 01:03 PM

Thanks alot Ed I just can't wait to get them to breeding size. Vinnie

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