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T+ and sharp?

hawiiangecko Sep 26, 2006 10:00 PM

what are these morphs? T+ is albino right? it looks nothing like an albino to me. just trying to learn a little more

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1.2 leopard geckos1.0 jungle carpet python
1.1 columbian BCI

Replies (13)

metachrosis Sep 26, 2006 10:04 PM

This should pretty well fill your request for T
http://www.burkereptiles.com/Docs/Tplus.htm

M/

hawiiangecko Sep 26, 2006 10:26 PM

thanks, this helped a lot.
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1.2 leopard geckos1.0 jungle carpet python
1.1 columbian BCI

ChrisGilbert Sep 26, 2006 10:07 PM

or do you mean the other half of the Paradigm? Because the other half is not a T-plus Albino.

hawiiangecko Sep 26, 2006 10:22 PM

T positive animals, what the genetics are behind them, and sharp albinos, and what the genetics are behind them
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1.2 leopard geckos1.0 jungle carpet python
1.1 columbian BCI

ChrisGilbert Sep 26, 2006 11:56 PM

to figure out. All are recessive:
Sharp Albino (Amelanistic) Theorized T-negative.
Kahl Albino (Amelanistic) Theorized T-negative.
Caramel (Hypomelanistic) Unknown.
VPI Caramel Albino (Amelanism mutation) Theorized T-positive.
Nicaraguan Caramel Albino Theorized T-positive.
Argentine Albino Theorized T-positive.
NERD Insular Albino Theorized T-positive.

Paradigm, F1 Caramel X Sharp Albino, theorized T-positive Albino.

This is the information we have. There is some relation betwee Sharp and Caramel. It is assumed by some that there is also a connection between them and the VPI Caramel Albino.
All others do need to be considered, but stand independent at this point.

ajfreptiles Sep 26, 2006 10:26 PM

Hey Chris...another question....

Through all of this ...I have not heard anyone include the central american T positive into the mix....
I have heard this T positive was compatable with the Colombian T positive....if that is true....maybe that will make this even more complicated...LOL...I'll let you un-wravel this web....my head hurts...lol...Take care, Andy
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ChrisGilbert Sep 26, 2006 11:51 PM

because it stands on the full oposite end of the spectrum. There has been nothing to show that it is compatible with the VPI Colombian strain. Because the VPI gains melanin and shows black speckles, while the Nicaraguan hold Caramel colors and never shows black pigment, I do not think they will show to be compatible.

The VPI T-plus was ONLY brought into the discussion because it is SIMILAR in appearance to the Caramel/Boawoman Hypo, and the Paradigm is some form of T-positive Albino.

chris nicholas Sep 27, 2006 10:59 AM

I have seen the vpi line in person, and the dark coloration did not look black to me. Tracy would be the best to describe her animal, once again regurgitation at its best.

Chris Nicholas

ChrisGilbert Sep 27, 2006 01:26 PM

I have seen VPI line as well. So change black to melanin (includes pigments other than black). It still increases in melanin with age. Thanks for pointing that out, a lot of information swirling aroud my head right now, tough to pick out details from the wirl-pool.

ajfreptiles Sep 27, 2006 11:51 AM

I thought the VPI T positive held the light color and blacks were non exhistant on the animal...Thanks Andy
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ChrisGilbert Sep 27, 2006 01:30 PM

you can see pictures of T-plus neonates to adults. The best picture of a neonate is in The Boa Constrictor Manuel. Adults appear closer to normal coloration than they do Albino traits.

As Chris Nicholas corrected my writing, replace the words Black with melanin in my explaination. Melanin can incorporate other pigments, browns etc.
Just look at some progression pictures.

PanamaRed Sep 26, 2006 10:35 PM

We don't know Sharps are T negative, thats an assumtion Chris, we don't know what they are truly. All good in speculating on a morph but I wouldn't tell folks it is for fact a T negative just yet..
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ChrisGilbert Sep 26, 2006 11:48 PM

In my reply I was going by the names that are CURRENTLY assigned to the morphs. The original poster asked about T-positive Albinos, and I wasn't certain that they did not mean Caramel/Boawoman Hypo. As over the last few days I have seen some people confuse the two mutations.

Saying something may or may not be something, is totally separate.

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