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Any help would be wonderful, thanks.

Look like amels to me. Seem to be very orange. Possibly some emoryi in there?
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 MO Locale Black Ratsnake "Molly" (Flogging Molly)

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I know that creamsicles are a cross between a corn and an emoryi rat. Creamsicles are very orange.

But I'm wondering why you mentioned emoryi when you see orange? Aren't there other morphs that have a bunch of orange in them that aren't emoryi related?
Thanks,
Rob
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1.1 Bearded dragons
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn
0.1 Creamscicle corn
0.0.2 Normal(?)
0.1 Black Pine
1.1 Bearded Dragon

I kind of thought the same about the emory. But I did not say anything, since pictures also vary due to lighting. I've taken pics of one snake and can produce wide variations in the way they look.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

I suspect one or both the parents of those have nice orange markings on a crisp white background. Some of those don't qualify as candy canes, but some certainly do. I'd love to see one or both of the parents.

I see nothing in those snakes to remind me of Emory's influence. NONE of my orange candy canes or orange amels have a drop of Emory's blood in them.

Congratulations. Beautiful snakes.

Don Soderberg
South Mountain Reptiles
www.cornsnake.NET
South Mountain Reptiles

>>Any help would be wonderful, thanks.
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those are amel corn snakes
amel is short for amelanistic or amelanism.
Amelanism is the lack of melanin (black) resulting in brighter remaining colors and red eyes.

there was a mention of creamsicle.
Creamsicles are corn snake/emroyi rat snake crosses expressing amelanism.
They tend to be more on the ornage side thus the name creamsicle.
BUT, some creamsicles can be more on the red side and some amelanistic corns can be more on the orange side.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

Baby creamsicles usually have a light orange ground color - not white. It is impossible to tell if a snake has Emory in it's blood, so without knowing the genetics, it's not really anything you can accurately speculate.

Just because a snake is pale orange, doesn't mean it's a creamsicle and just because a snake is a creamsicle does not mean that it's pale orange.

Tim

Third Eye

Thanks so much for all your responses. What would be a good purchase price for these snakes? And what do I look for in patterns etc... to get the best looking snake? Thanks again

>>Thanks so much for all your responses. What would be a good purchase price for these snakes? And what do I look for in patterns etc... to get the best looking snake? Thanks again

anywhere from $15.00 to $30.00

I would probably lean towards a couple with the most contrast between saddles and background.
The brightest saddles on the whitest background.

But, what you really need to do is wait until they shed and just look them over. There will be something that will catch your eye.
Sometimes you may not even know exactly what it is about a particular snake that catches your eye, there will just something about it.
Just go with what you like
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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>>>>Thanks so much for all your responses. What would be a good purchase price for these snakes? And what do I look for in patterns etc... to get the best looking snake? Thanks again
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>>anywhere from $15.00 to $30.00
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>>I would probably lean towards a couple with the most contrast between saddles and background.
>>The brightest saddles on the whitest background.
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>>But, what you really need to do is wait until they shed and just look them over. There will be something that will catch your eye.
>>Sometimes you may not even know exactly what it is about a particular snake that catches your eye, there will just something about it.
>>Just go with what you like
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Just wanted to add this.

when I look at the picture the one in the foreground cathes my eye.
Nice contrast combined with a a slight zigzagging.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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