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Breeding advice?!

Matt J Sep 28, 2006 08:10 PM

Hey all,

Well, I have a trio (2.1) GTP that are around 9 years old now. I've had TONS of breeding over the past four years, but never eggs. Now, if you notice in the pic, this time of year the female goes towards 'the blue'. The males are a couple months from even being interested in breeding. Any ideas of what is going on and maybe how I can get this female bred? Should I cool the males quickly in hopes of 'catching' the female?

Thanks in advance for any info or ideas!

Matt
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Replies (7)

rjames Sep 29, 2006 08:30 AM

Well, I always had my luck after a second or third cold front passed. I think you should send those hotties down to florida, where there is a first cold wave of the season passing through right now!!! There is no "quick" cycling method I know of. You don't want to risk shocking them, they won't breed this year if that happens. Cool them and begin cycling. You can introduce them a few times, but I always separate them when I don't see interest, and try again later. How are the feedings going? That's my tell-tale to show when they are ready.
Good Luck. Very Hot pair you have there!

Brandon Osborne Sep 29, 2006 04:56 PM

no offense, but not all chondros will act the same. I have males that will eat through Dec. when it's COLD here. It depends on location as well. If you're female is turning blue, it could be too late. It's hard to say. I start cooling in lat Oct.-mid Jan or Feb. if temps are right. Mid-west weather isn't consistent with most of the country.

Cool them for 2-4 week and introduce A MALE to your female. Keep temps in the upper 60's-low 70's at night and around 80 during the day during this time. Females will typically fast around a month prior to ovulation. After ovulation, keep temps between 76-82 until eggs are laid. Many clutches of eggs have been cooked while females were basking.....I personally have also used lower basking temps for all my animals.

It doesn't take a cold front to get chondros to breed. Just lower your temps and watch nature take it's course. A 3 year field study recorded adult chondros "chilling" in temps around 40*NTL. These guys are a lot more resilient than most give them credit for.

Good luck.

Brandon Osborne

Matt J Sep 30, 2006 05:41 AM

I live in Florida and do not start cooling my collection until late November (I cannot make an exception for the GTP unfortunately). What I don't understand is why she goes blue SO early in the season (end of August) when the light cycle has just started to change a little, but the temps have not. It's strange... I'm well versed in python reproduction for Balls and Borneo Short-Tails, but I cannot nail down GTP. I almost wonder if I should put them outside and let the natural cycle do it's thing (I have a friend who has had success doing just that but it makes me worried just thinking about it!). Much appreciated input from both of you! Still scratching my head a little...

Matt
p.s. - Here is another pic for you rjames. She's right about 7 feet now and tame as a Corn snake!
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timrash Sep 30, 2006 11:21 AM

Matt how long are you keeping the male in with her per season? Send me your extreme male Ultra Breit and I will do my best to help you out! =) Just kidding unless he is taking up too much cage space over there...
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Tim Rash
www.nocturnal-creations.com

Matt J Sep 30, 2006 07:21 PM

Hey Tim!

>>Matt how long are you keeping the male in with her per season?

I usually do the same thing as with my other pythons. Put him in when he starts to roam and go off feed. Usually around November/December through maybe March to April?!

> Send me your extreme male Ultra Breit and I will do my best to help you out! =) Just kidding unless he is taking up too much cage space over there...

Hahahaha... I might need a LOT of High Yellow/Lemon GTP for him...

All the best-

Matt

rjames Sep 30, 2006 01:02 PM

That's hot! what technique did you use to stretch that chondro? Here in the Hot state I just don't know why she'd be ready when the temps have been in the 90s. But I've been away from the forums for a few years, so I gladly listen to those who've been more successful than I. That chondro seems hot though. I don't have any pairings myself this season, so I'm breeding vicariously.
Good Luck
Ryan B

BGheadquarters Oct 03, 2006 10:43 PM

I see a very familiar looking green tree in that picture! Middle cage, yellow over the eyes! are those the original green trees from old skool? I hope so! they look good, will never forget the day i gave them back! AHHH!! shooting myself now! haha chump! email me!

the original, BG!

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