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Free tadpoles from petsmart.

AnimalSquabbles Sep 29, 2006 08:51 PM

I went to petsmart earlier today for crickets and they had two real big tadpoles in the aquarium live plant tanks. They said they come sometimes on accident so they gave them to me for free. I have no idea what type of frog they are cause Im not really a frog person. The two girls working there were completely stupid. For example, I asked one if I put crickets on the waters surface would the tadpoles eat them, her answer was "Well the crickets would die, they cant survive on the waters surface." I asked what type of frogs they were and her answer was "You know... ribbit ribbit frogs." The sad part is that she was around 30 years old.

I have some pacmans, but I could use some advice. Right now I have them in a round 5 gallon pet pal, gravel bottom with plants floating on the surface for visual hiding barriers and stuff. I bought some pellets for them and they seemed to be eating them. Im not sure when to move them to surface. Thanks ahead for any help.
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Replies (9)

UroTamer Sep 30, 2006 02:11 AM

I don't know tadpoles, but as for when to move them to the surface... I would make one end of the tank like a beach with sand or moss so they can migrate out when they are ready. If you do that you won't need to wonder they will do it on their own.
Good luck and keep us posted.

**Kenn**

AnimalSquabbles Sep 30, 2006 04:07 AM

haha these guys are entertaining. I watched them from the other side of the room a couple of times and there are swimming aroung and stuff. Then when I go right to the tank and look they both look at me and freeze. haha I dont think they trust me.

another thing the petsmart girls were doing is that they kept picking them up out the water and holding them. Im not sure if the same goes for tadpoles but I know your not supposed to touch amphibians because of the absorbing skin.
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UroTamer Sep 30, 2006 08:55 AM

That's funny Animals of all kinds have their own personalities don't they?
You can handle them occasionally for short periods (like a minute) once in a while. As long as your hands are clean and free of lotions, soaps, etc. But it is best if you don't, aquatic animals don't really like being handled because it's not "natural".
Any more funny "tails" please share them I like reading about things like that!!!
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ctct Sep 30, 2006 07:07 AM

You could write a whole book on tadpoles. Here's a brief overview as I've raised a bunch.

The 5 gallon is a bit small. Tadpoles eat a lot and excrete a lot and that fouls the water. A larger tank would be much easier. Frequent water changes are a must. Treat them as you would aquarium fish. Do a 1/3 water change 1-2x a week with water that has been treated (dechlorinated) and is about the same temperature. Use lots of aeration with bubble stones and a good filter. If the tadpoles are small be careful the filter isnt too strong. In a small tank an old fashioned corner filter works well. It wont bother them and produces lots of bubbles which is a good thing.

Live plants are good. I used to use bunches of elodea since the tadpoles will eat it. You can also use boiled leafy green vegetable leafs like romaine lettuce, collard greens and spinache. They will also eat algea. Tadpoles love protein if they can find it. They will eat the bottom feeder food as you mentions. Another good choice is cubed freeze dried tubifex worms. Stick the cube on the side of the tank and they will have at it. They will not eat crickets at this stage.

Depending on the frog and conditions somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-4 weeks they should start to develop hind legs. If all is going well pretty soon you will see bumps where their forelegs will be. Once you see the bumps the legs should poke through within 48 hours. Now you have a frog with a tail. Their heads should start to change and develop more of a square frog-shaped head for lack of a better word. At this point they should still have a mouth that looks like a fish so they still wont eat crickets.

At this stage its time to change the tank. Lower the water level to about 6 inches or so. Continues to provide oxygen with bubbles and filters. You may see them take a gulp of air but keep up with the oxygen in the water. Now its time to provide some rocks and logs for them to climb out on. They probably wont eat at this stage since they are absorbing their tails. They may just lay on the top of the water not moving. Dont be alarmed, its normal.

Once the tail is gone they will start climbing up on the rocks and logs. They still spend a great deal of time in the water. Take a look at their mouth. When it starts to look like an adult frogs mouth they are ready for food. As in the mouth runs from eye to eye and no long resembles a fish mouth. At this point you can offer them approriate sized crickets.

Once they begin feeding and get a little bigger you can introduce them into their permanent home. You know the half land half water or 2/3 water 1/3 land or whatever depending on what you wanna do and what species you have. Most likely something common. Some kind of bullfrog or leopard frog. Big tadpole, big adult. If you have a tadpole thats 3-4" you got a big frog on your hands.

Good luck. Its fun to watch and not diffuclt. The main thing is keeping them clean as they develop.

And yes the girls at ths shop should not be holding the tadpoles. Its not even a great idea to hold adult frogs. Holding a tadpole out of the water is the same as holding a fish. They dont like it. A good suggestion would be to hold the clerks head under the water for a few minutes and tap on the glass. See how that grabs her.

Kidding...kidding...dont do that

UroTamer Sep 30, 2006 09:00 AM

Wow, that's some interesting information, thanks!! I like the dunking part too
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ctct Sep 30, 2006 11:05 AM

Yup. even an old man like me still gets a kick out seeing the little guys crawl out of the water and take their first cricket. And my nephews love it. Last time I had tadpoles one of them asked a question. Conversation went like so:

Kid: When do they shoot their tongues?
Me: Frogs dont do that. Chameleons do that. They are a lizard.
Kid: Frogs do too
Me: No they dont.
Kid: The frog on TV does (He means the WB mascot)
Me: Well, that frog also sings and dances and these dont do that either. Although I wish they did I could retire.

Kids and frogs. They go together.

UroTamer Sep 30, 2006 03:14 PM

You're only as old as you think (not feel ) I'm in my mid-40's and still have kids 11, 8, and 3. They all love the animals and it's fun watching and playing with them all.
Funny little 'tail' there. I thought frogs used their tongues too NOPE they just zip and the crickets are gone!! I should have got them from Warner Bros. Ha,ha
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AnimalSquabbles Sep 30, 2006 03:18 PM

hahaha thanks for all the info ctct. These guys are about 4 inches long including the tail and their hind legs seem to have just developed cause they are real small. The bodies are about and inch and a half or two inches. I dont know if the color can identify them but they are greenish brown with dark green spots. I live in las vegas and I dont see frogs, toads are real common though.
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otis07 Oct 05, 2006 03:41 PM

yeah, people at the petsmarts and petco's are uaually pretty dumb. one time somebody said my newt was pregnant and there was a little baby newt in HIS tunny. i don't know what kind of tads they are, but all tads have similar care. keep water clean @ 75-82F. have lots of food: tropical fish food, algae wafers (only put half of one in a 5 gallon, it coulds the water and then the tads can't breathe), algae, dead and live plants, lettuce and greens (no iceburg), and dead bugs. good luck and contact me at otis07_@hotmail.com if you have any more questions. heres my tad tank for a bullfrog (he's since turned into a frog).

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