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OK, I'm looking at possibly purchasing an offspring of two very blue Aru parents. The father was green with blue speckles and the mother, well let's just say I've seen bluebirds with less blue on them. Are they're any things to look for (pattern, color, signs of health) that can be determined from a pic that I should have my eye out for? Obviously I would like to get one that would look like the mother, but I don't think there are any ways of telling as a neonate. Also I don't know much about the genetics of this trait, I mean is it dominate, recessive, are some blue's compatible and some not, is it a matter of the babies come out somewhere between the parents? Is there any science to this at all?

Thanks guys,

-Sauzin

Im posting becase im upset with people marketing there blue females as "Solid or True Blue" when in fact there blue color is due to there hormonal change when breeding. It is not uncommon for females to retain most if not all of there blue coloration after they lay.

However there are some blue females who do infact turn blue regardless of breeding season.

Word of advice. If you are looking for a "solid blue animal" i am not aware of any yellow babys going blue. They are goning to cost you a pretty penny as I just aquired a blue blood baby that ran 2k.

Good Luck.
JG

Greg Maxwell goes in to more detail than this. link.
http://www.chondroweb.com/fineGTPs/Morphs.html#HighBluePhasesandMorphs

In my opinion most of the recent blue animal "Aru's" types that have been posted lately have been honestly represented. The female offspring from these animals have a greater occurance of retaining and keeping the hormonal changed blue as adults than babies from green parents. In my particular case it has been ~50%, over three generations. There has also been a great variety of shades of blue and turquiose from these genes. Some of the coolest ones I have are somewhere in between. I find it ironic that people want to say "this" blue coloration is not genetic. Obviously it is.

Also paying 2-4K for the "morph" blue animals does not gaurrante blue animals any more than babies from a "Blue Female Aru Phase".

Whether the animal turns blue during ontegensis or during maturity, IMO, I really don't see a big difference if you are interested in a having blue Chondros. The ONLY difference I see is about $2-3K. The possibility of getting a blue animal is about the same. Of course I think the "morph" blues are GREAT, but I'm pretty happy with my "Phase" blues. Of course if you want a male and female you will need to get the "morph" type and also take out a second mortage on the house to buy enough 4K babies to actually get a male and female of each that turn blue.

Chris Rouille

IMO, whether an animal turns blue "genetically" or "hormonally" makes no difference unless you want a male... in which case you will have to pay the big bucks for a genetic blue. Most females that turn blue during pregnancy will stay blue, so I really don't see a difference... the bottom line is that you have a blue snake either way.

It seems that the in ARU neonates , black speckling correlated to more white speckles. The large circular black blotches tend to turn blue. As a neo you won't know sex, so it propensity to turn blue won't be known till the sex is known. It is an inheritable trait to have a tendancy to turn blue, even if it is a hormonal change. I have yet seen any of my babies from green adult aru females turn blue. Another fact is the the blue on "morph phase animals can change shades and colors too. Remember these are animals that start out as yellow and red babies.

Chris Rouille