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How comon is it to loose a couple snakes from a clutch? I had one I sold reportedly die and that one I replaced free of charge but since then I have had one more die and another one I fear is on its way out. This most recent one started doing what I can only explain as star gazing like in Boas. The one that is not doing good absolutly will not eat. I have tryed live, FT brained and ever parts and it wont have any of it. I am just wandering if it is com,on to loose 2-3 out of a clutch of 17? Thanks in advance.
FOOT HILL REPTILES

HEY JASON!!! i dunno whats up... so far all 15 of my first clutch are doing ok....except the 6 non-feeders...
i hope all else is good

~kin
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
1. Miami Phase partial zigzag (Starkey)[Emilys F2 baby]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (NO NAME, Isis)

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Spotted Cal King (Wishbone)
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
1. MSP Thayeri (no name)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? unknown High yellow and brown spots...hypo?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

~~~~~~~~~~~~OTHER~~~~~~~~~~~~
0.0.1 American toad

I dont get it iether "How have you been by the way?" The good news is so far all the rest of them are doing fine. I only have 5 left. 2 are hold backs and they are doing great and the other 2 are doing great. The one that wont eat however I dont hold much hope for.
FOOT HILL REPTILES

i'm okey dokey- have you tried tuna scented? that worked on 2 of my non-feeders...

~kin
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
1. Miami Phase partial zigzag (Starkey)[Emilys F2 baby]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (NO NAME, Isis)

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Spotted Cal King (Wishbone)
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
1. MSP Thayeri (no name)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? unknown High yellow and brown spots...hypo?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

~~~~~~~~~~~~OTHER~~~~~~~~~~~~
0.0.1 American toad

Jason, try raising Jackson chameleons. I would see one, one minute and 15-30 minutes later he would be dead.

Someone told me that jax have high mortality rates to attract flies for other babies. I disagree with that theory. jax are born alive, drop to the groung in a goo, then they run (if you can call it that) in all directions. If I had better luck with them, I may have never got into corns. I really am more of a lizard herp guy. I sat and watched interaction between my jax for hours and days on end. I could tell if a female was gravid by color and reaction to a male.

I may do them again someday.

big files, warning for dial up ppl
http://www.herpzilla.com/fun/day2 sept 15.jpg
http://www.herpzilla.com/fun/jackson2.gif

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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

aww!!! how cute!!!! i love those things but i heard they are all so hard to keep. i'm too afraid!! i get attatched too quickly and stuff i'll stick with my leos and corns

~kin
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
1. Miami Phase partial zigzag (Starkey)[Emilys F2 baby]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (NO NAME, Isis)

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Spotted Cal King (Wishbone)
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
1. MSP Thayeri (no name)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? unknown High yellow and brown spots...hypo?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

~~~~~~~~~~~~OTHER~~~~~~~~~~~~
0.0.1 American toad

Older Jax are pretty easy. Good UVB, no hotter than 78 at the top of the cage. Babies I tried to keep below 75.

They just will not drink from a dish, and they drink a lot.

I never took pic of my setups and different ideas. But my last was by far the easiest to keep.

A large screen cage, coated window screen is a most. A very large pothos in a tupperware container. I covered the dirt with golf ball size gravel so they could not intake any soil.

To water i had a small bucket with a pin hole in it, just get it to drip about 1 drop per 2-3 seconds and sit on the cage.

Also large blocks of ice sat on the cages to water.

Keep humid 50-60% for adults Spray a few times aday.

It got to where I rarely sprayed. Fun lizard, but they will eat you out of house and home.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.herpzilla.com

It is not uncommon to have a few non feeders and even a couple of unexplained deaths... Although i believe that some deaths can be avoided the fact remains that not all hatchlings are meant to survive..

Sorry for your losses and good luck with the ones that survive.

~ Mike

I agree with Mike. Some corns never eat (and subsequently die) and others appear to do fine and then unexpectedly give up the ghost. Losing 2 or 3 from a clutch of 17 would not be considered unusual from what I've seen.

Tim

Third Eye