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o.k. this one is reallly hard.I don't

shannon brown Oct 12, 2006 05:46 PM

expect anybody to guess this one.Its not man made and is a wild caught snake.

Good luck,
Shannon
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Replies (11)

dvoss Oct 12, 2006 07:28 PM

stansbury

shannon brown Oct 13, 2006 12:59 AM

stansbury mountains western utah.Full blown taylori but are very aberrant and unusual because its at the very end of there range and there is little to no gene flow.
Shannon

Jeff Hardwick Oct 12, 2006 10:29 PM

I'm thinkin Colorado Gentilis-perhaps from the Golden area or nearby. Jeff

justinian2120 Oct 12, 2006 10:40 PM

i'm gonna say pale milk.maybe even a pyro-?wierd,pretty.
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terryd Oct 12, 2006 10:55 PM

2120 said "Pale milk or maybe pyro", whoa nelly slow down here I don't think we have a Pyromelana, heads not blockie enough and this is a Milk snake forum. I don't think Shannon would do that to us.
Dell

Patton Oct 14, 2006 11:54 AM

There are Taylori X Infralabialis intergrades near Salt Lake City, Ut.. Not to through a wrench in things LOL!
-Phil

shannon brown Oct 15, 2006 11:51 AM

These are the animals that were thought to be possible intergardes/hybrids.
They have found no evidence that they acually are hybridizing.It was only speculation a while ago because olt of them looked like they had pyro heads etc...I have seen alot of them from this area and they are just milks.

Shannon

Patton Oct 22, 2006 01:04 PM

You are probably right. I have only heard about them second hand, through Bob Macken and Ric Blair, and haven't even seen a photo of the supposed Taylori X infralabialis intergrades. It does sound like it would make a beautiful snake though.
Thanks,
-Phil

shannon brown Oct 23, 2006 02:03 PM

pics are very old and are second hand.
Shannon

terryd Oct 12, 2006 10:42 PM

Wow, cool animals dead or alive. I'm with Jeff on this one Gentilis. I'd love to hear Taylori, but I really don't think so.
dell

Burnsy Oct 12, 2006 11:32 PM

Hi!

Since Shannon told that this is a hard one I'd also throw in celaenops, but very unusual.

Gerrit
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