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Posted by: zaccaryus at Sat Oct 14 11:29:28 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

Hi,
I apologize to all of you for which this is a dead issue, and I am sure that there are many of you. However, I just got back into the hobby and last night I saw a copy of the legislation that the New York assembly passed on exotic animals as pets in new York. This legislation outlaws all the larger Python and Monitor species.
In High-school i kept many reptiles, including a male reticulated python and a water monitor. Both very friendly animals. I kept them in appropriate cages for the sizes they were and found them both extremely rewarding especially the Water Monitor(His name was Mozart).Neither were captive bred and really fared well but unfortunately my retic succumbed to Stargazer disease.Anyways, I am just writing because I really think some aspects of this legislation are bs. I mean I even suppose I can understand outlawing the larger Boids and the Niles, especially because of the combination of the disposition of the Nile and its availability in shoddy pet stores. However, at least in my days it was rare that you found a water monitor in a pet store (I know I searched for one- i even went down the village-where even at 16 i thought they would be.) It just seems that to an extant this legislation was formed from a witch trial mentality instead of being based on genuine scientific fact. It seems to me the legislation was clearly intended to stop their existence as opposed to being geared to any pragmatic husbandry related issue as other animals with nearly similar requirements were not banned. I just want to see if people agree with me on this.

I Am Zachary Liben and am finishing up my senior year in college near home and am currently trying to acquire an ackie monitor or argus. (which i was doing before this- because admittedly, if you can find an interesting smaller animal you should- so if anyone knows of a breeder in ny- that would be great- Wow- they are breeding monitors now- awesome!best

I can't say much on this but I would like to know more myself. I don't live in NY but my fiance does and I would really like to know which animals I can keep if/when I move there. I live in Oklahoma now and our laws are really relaxed. Is there somewhere I can find a list of animals you can keep, or ones you can keep with only a permit?
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NYC laws ban BP's and tarantulas. Idiot law passed by idiots in the Health dept. NYS laws allow BP's but nothing over 8'.

Check the nyc.gov website under nyc health dept. for complete listing.

Mike

Actually, the 8' law is not correct. Think about it, they allow Boa Constrictors, but females can get over 8', therefore people would be losing their over 8' Boas. I had a female BCI that was 9 1/2' when the law was passed, I called and ws told that all Boa Constrictors are legal. they defined what species of Boids were banned and basically it was the Burmese Pythons and up.

Here is the part of the law that pertains to reptiles:

22 (5) All reptiles that are venomous by nature, pursuant to department
23 regulation, and the following species and {families} ORDERS: Burmese

EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
{ } is old law to be omitted.
LBD05420-01-5

A. 2338 2

1 Python (Python m. bivittatus), Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus),
2 African Rock Python (Python sabae), Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus),
3 Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Australian Amethystine Python (More-
4 lia amethistina {kinhorni} AND MORELIA KINGHORNI), Indian Python (Python
5 molurus), Asiatic (water) Monitor ({V.} VARANUS salvator), Nile Monitor
6 ({V.} VARANUS nilocitus), White Throat Monitor ({V. albigularus} VARANUS
7 ALBIGULARIS), Black Throat Monitor ({V. albigularus} VARANUS ALBIGULARIS
8 ionides) and Crocodile Monitor ({V.} VARANUS salvadori), KOMODO DRAGON
9 (VARANUS KOMODENSIS) and any hybrid thereof,
10 (6) {Crocodilia} CROCODYLIA.