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So two weeks ago, I bought a pair of Albino San Diego Gohpers, I now own 7 pits.

Breeder Pair of Bullsnakes, Het. Albino/Axanthic

Male

Female

Sunglow Sonoran Gopher Female

Hypo Sonoran Gopher Male

Cape Gopher Male Het. Albino

I have problems...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend

Yeah...I got problems too...aint it cool!! I really like that Sunglow Sonoran, do you plan to breed her to the hypo? Who did you get your Cape Baja from? I produced some hets. this year myself. Here's a picture of my breeder male.

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Dale dgoins222@yahoo.com

I just aquired a Southern Pine. He is 54" and 780 grams. I currently have him in a Rubbermaid - 22"x16"x9".
Is this tub too small for a Pit of this size. I feel sorry for him?
Anyone?

This is the tub that snake came in before cleaning, haha, to clarify. It is a 28 quart sterilite, I have seem the same containers at Wal-Mart, like 4$.

Ideally I would love to have them all in 40-55 gallon tanks, but with so many, I guess the containers are the way to go, I kind of feel bad too, but I have seen alot of people house their larger snakes in something this size, maybe a little bit bigger. Seems like a boring life, but I guess they do ok.

Maybe you need some more opinions, good luck.
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend

Pines get a little bigger, but the size you mentioned should work fine. The tub I have pictured is a bit smaller than that.
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Dale dgoins222@yahoo.com

Thanks, both of you.
What about hides?
I notice a lot of people who use tubs provide no hides. Is that because the snake feels secure in a rack/bin container?
I have provided one hide at the front on the cool end. It takes up almost half the bin. If I provided another on the hot end the bin would almost be taken up by hides.
Right now he seems to favour the one hide I have provided. If only one hide, should it be at the back on the hot end or at the front?
Thanks in advance.

I don't use hides unless I have a snake that just doesn't ever get comfortable. I know most people say that is not the way to do it, but I've did it for years with no bad effects. My animals are not in a high traffic area, so that definitely makes a difference. I've just always liked being able to enjoy the beauty of them, and not just look in at a box.
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Dale dgoins222@yahoo.com

I use pieces of pvc conduit in my racks. 2''for my bulls and smaller for my gophers, milks,kings and ratsnakes.My bulls are in large Cambro tubs, in racks bulit by Jason Vankirk at rosy racks and more. I was alittle worried about them not being large enough tubs. But they have reproduce the last three years.

Thanks, you know, I was thinking about that, which male I should breed to the Hypo, the Sunglow, or the Cape Gopher, Any advice? I really am not sure, I got a steal from a guy that ran a rescue shelter, and was looking for a good way to get rid of some snakes quick...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend

Don't mix, keep the sonoran bloodline pure.

Beautiful snake you have there.

Thanks, you know, I was thinking about that, which male I should breed to the Hypo, the Sunglow, or the Cape Gopher, Any advice? I really am not sure, I got a steal from a guy that ran a rescue shelter, and was looking for a good way to get rid of some snakes quick...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend

The Sonoran and Capes ranges are close, but not sure what you would get, I would definitely breed the Sonorans. I'm sure you will get more opinions, but I believe all your babies would be double hets.
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Dale dgoins222@yahoo.com

That's great, any opinions are gladly welcomed, I kind of like the idea of keeping the sonorans together... now to find a female cape...
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend

I would definetely breed the sonorans to each other and not to the cape, as they are a different subpecies.
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Genesis 1:1

Shoot me an e-mail. I work 2nd...get back to you late tonight.
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Dale dgoins222@yahoo.com

For some reason, it will not accept that email address, below is mine, if you can send it to me.
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend
jswanson737@hotmail.com

...that's what I'm talking about!

Now you know there is no "ray of hope, a cure, a light at the end of the tunnel" from your post below!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.3.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Baird's Rat Snake
0.1.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
2.0.0 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.1.1 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
0.0.1 Ribbon Snake
1.0.0 Western Hognose
1.0.0 Yellowtail Cribo
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo
0.0.2 Northern Ringnecks

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
1.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
2.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
0.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko
FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.1 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

Haha, oh man, my fate has been sealed, and I have never been so happy!
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2.0 Snow Corns
1.2 Normal Corns
0.1 Abbott Okeetee Corn
0.2 Creamsicle Corns
0.1 Amelanistic Corns
0.1 Anerythristic A Corns
1.1 Amelanistic San Diego Gophers
0.1 Hypo Sonoran Gopher
1.0 Cape Gopher Het. Albino
1.0 Sunglow Sonoran Gopher
1.1 Bull Het. Albino/Axanthic
0.1 Leucistic Texas Rat
2.0 Albino Striped Cal. Kings
0.1 Striped Cal. Kings
1.0 Leopard Gecko
0.1 African Fat Tail Gecko
0.2 Cat
0.1 Dog
0.1 Friend