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MurphysLaw Oct 16, 2006 03:29 PM

a charcoal and an anery?Just curious.Thanks for the replies.
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wisema2297 Oct 16, 2006 03:53 PM

two genetically different forms of anery. The anery used to be called anery A and charcoal was called anery B. The charcoal doesn't have all of the yellow coloring that comes in as the snake matures where as the anery does. I also believe that if you breed anery to charcoal you have normal looking babies hence genetically different. To make things mor confuseing there is now an anery Z but someone else will have to explain that one.

draybar Oct 16, 2006 04:07 PM

>>two genetically different forms of anery. The anery used to be called anery A and charcoal was called anery B. The charcoal doesn't have all of the yellow coloring that comes in as the snake matures where as the anery does. I also believe that if you breed anery to charcoal you have normal looking babies hence genetically different. To make things mor confuseing there is now an anery Z but someone else will have to explain that one.

Like he said anery B (charcoal)is a separate form of anerythrism.
Anery A to Anery B will give you normals het anery A and het anery B
Anery B is used to make blizzards where as anery A to make snows.
Although there usually isn't as much yellow in charcoals as a whole, you can still have yellow show up. Which can makes things even more confusing.
Once again this is only a generalization but charcoals will usually have less contrast between the saddles and background.
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HerpZillA Oct 16, 2006 04:24 PM

What happened to Anery C thru Y?
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draybar Oct 16, 2006 04:36 PM

>>What happened to Anery C thru Y?
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They couldn't spell?
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garweft Oct 16, 2006 04:51 PM

n/p

I said n/p, why are you reading this??

Ok for those of you that looked anyways, I'll at least give you something to look at.

BackBeat Oct 16, 2006 05:32 PM

....'Zuchowski'.
As in Rich Zuchowski, the man who originally produced the Z Anery morph.

Correct?? If not, someone DO fill me in.

I used to be on top of the corn genetics, but from time to time I find myself at a loss.

BB
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garweft Oct 17, 2006 10:53 PM

n/p

carol Oct 16, 2006 07:40 PM

Here is the whole story. Rich Z, the originator of the line calls them Anery C. The name "Morph Z" was actually created by others to get away from associating the word "Anery" with this new morph. So it was the furthest of intentions for the name Anery Z to pop up. Kind of ironically counterproductive. LOL.
Others, as well as myself, thought "anery" should not be used in describing this morph at all. All Z hatchlings start off Anery looking, but to varied degrees develop red over time. Some stay very anery like, but many do not. It all started when the American Cornsnake registry accepted this as a proven new recessive trait. Charles Pritzel, was one that agreed "Anery C" was a bad description and did not want to list is as a genetic option out of fear it would cause the poor name to "stick" even more.
Instead, he came up with Morph Z as a TEMPORARY name for them until a good descriptive name came into play. As far as I know I was the first to recover the gene from Rich Z's original projects, and I was the first to produce an Amel Z. The Amel Z is a perfect example why "Anery" is not right for this morph. I've been trying my best and taking suggestions on what name I could use to market these guys, but so far have been at a loss since so few look the same. I don't want to start another Bloodred nightmare. I think the best idea would be to come up with a nonesense name or a name that describes the fact that they change, or that they develop red, such as "blushing" corns, but that is way too cheesy. I sure wish "Granite" wasn't taken, and I also like "Jasper" but that sounds too much like a locality. *sigh*
So far, I'm still having a creative block, either that or I'm too picky. In the back of my mind I keep hoping Rich, the originator, will come up with something a little better than Anery C since he has access to the most animals that are homo for this new trait.
Clear as mud?


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draybar Oct 16, 2006 09:05 PM

>>Here is the whole story. Rich Z, the originator of the line calls them Anery C. The name "Morph Z" was actually created by others to get away from associating the word "Anery" with this new morph. So it was the furthest of intentions for the name Anery Z to pop up. Kind of ironically counterproductive. LOL.
>>Others, as well as myself, thought "anery" should not be used in describing this morph at all. All Z hatchlings start off Anery looking, but to varied degrees develop red over time. Some stay very anery like, but many do not. It all started when the American Cornsnake registry accepted this as a proven new recessive trait. Charles Pritzel, was one that agreed "Anery C" was a bad description and did not want to list is as a genetic option out of fear it would cause the poor name to "stick" even more.
>>Instead, he came up with Morph Z as a TEMPORARY name for them until a good descriptive name came into play. As far as I know I was the first to recover the gene from Rich Z's original projects, and I was the first to produce an Amel Z. The Amel Z is a perfect example why "Anery" is not right for this morph. I've been trying my best and taking suggestions on what name I could use to market these guys, but so far have been at a loss since so few look the same. I don't want to start another Bloodred nightmare. I think the best idea would be to come up with a nonesense name or a name that describes the fact that they change, or that they develop red, such as "blushing" corns, but that is way too cheesy. I sure wish "Granite" wasn't taken, and I also like "Jasper" but that sounds too much like a locality. *sigh*
>>So far, I'm still having a creative block, either that or I'm too picky. In the back of my mind I keep hoping Rich, the originator, will come up with something a little better than Anery C since he has access to the most animals that are homo for this new trait.
>>Clear as mud?
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extremely interesting, Carol.
That is a beautiful snake
How about Zenith...it is at least in keeping with The "Z morph"
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
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Draybars Snakes

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squidbelly Oct 16, 2006 09:49 PM

Have you considered calling the morph "Labile?" Since it means:

labile LAY-byl, adjective:
1. Open to change; apt or likely to change; adaptable.

Just a suggestion...I'm no breeder, but from what you've said this name could fit.

wisema2297 Oct 16, 2006 11:24 PM

Paradox Anery.....? It is but then again it isn't.

xblackheart Oct 16, 2006 11:26 PM

if they change colors so much, name them chameleons.
cuttle fish also change colors as well. Make a play off that.
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carol Oct 17, 2006 05:22 PM

I will put them on the list.
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