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Question for D. leucomelas owners...

zookeeper7986 Oct 16, 2006 11:24 PM

Anyone that has had success breeding leucs, please feel free to post a reply. I have 4 leucomelas. As of right now they are 1.1.2. The male is a big caller (loud enough to wake me from a solid sleep at 10 a.m.), the known female is a very large wild caught female, and the other two I am guessing to be females but they are only 8-10 months old. They are in a fully planted 15 gallon tank. The temp is 80-82 degrees and 90% humidity. They are all eating great and acting completely normal. So why aren't they breeding?????? Even if the two younger ones are too young to breed, I have a mature pair. Do they need a much larger tank to breed? Is there anything I can do or should I just keep watching and hoping (and I am hoping cause there is just nothin' cuter than a baby leuc!!) Any comments would be great. Thanks.

Luke.

Replies (7)

daystorm Oct 17, 2006 01:26 PM

First off, a 15 gallon is way to small for for frogs, you should be looking at 20 and up at least (rule of thumb, 5 per frog, but some frogs need larger territories than others)

The wild caught female, was she quarantined? And the two younger ones? The female may just be too stressed to breed because of the overcrowded environment. Females also mature at a slower rate than males.
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White's tree frogs : 1:1:0
Mantella viridis : 1:1:2

zookeeper7986 Oct 17, 2006 04:34 PM

I am aware of the rule of thumb, and I typically follow it. I'll work on getting a bigger tank, but they really are not stressed at all. They utilize multiple levels of the tank and there are a ton of hiding places for them. There are 4 bromiliads in there as well as other little hideouts. Even the wild caught female is doing great in there. She does not act frantic unlike other wildcaught frogs I have had in the past. As for quarantine...I quarantine all of my animals for a minimum of 30 day in a seperate area and I do run fecal exams on my animals. Thanks for your advice.

Luke.

TropicalJewels Dec 01, 2006 09:57 AM

I have been successfully breeding leucomelas for six months now. Four Frogs and I get a clutch every three days or so. I mist them daily with a hand spray bottle.

To answer your question, I believe yours may still be too young. Although my males started calling at 6 months old. I did not have a clutch until they were 16-17 months old. They have been fed well with supplements daily since I acquired them at 2 months old. I now have Many froglets and over 50 Leucomelas tads growing. Sometimes patience is all that works

Perry

www.TropicalJewels.com
Dart Frogs BC, Canada

otis07 Oct 27, 2006 09:22 PM

the female could have internal parisites, fecel samples check that and are cheap- 10-15$ usually. and u only need one, cause if one has it, so will the other ones.

pa.walt Oct 18, 2006 11:57 PM

from what i remember they are seasonal breeders. other types of tincs breed more often. if you can just try to keep the 2 "adults" together. some times too many frogs do tend to make the mating a little tougher.
hopefully a breeder of luecs will answer your question better.

slaytonp Oct 19, 2006 05:47 PM

One trick you might use is to keep the tank relatively dry for a spell, followed by heavy misting, or running a waterway. This may simulate the seasonal variations. Of course "dry" is just comparative, so you don't want to allow the humidity to go below 80% or so.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
5 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

otis07 Oct 27, 2006 09:24 PM

get a bigger tank, at least 5 gallons per frog, and it's better to keep only one frogp er gender for breeding because they are territorial and might "bully" eachother. doing a dry spell would help, for a few weeks lower humididy and don't feed them as much. but then mist A LOT and feed A LOT, feed multiple times a day so they are never hungry. food humidity=happy frogs=breeding frogs.

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