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Value of Normals

reptilemadn Oct 16, 2006 11:35 PM

Really I am seeing the demise of normal ball pythons....it seems that males are worthless...selling for 5 bucks at the Anahiem NARBC show....it seems that private pet stores are the dump off for ball pythons...i went into my favorite one and the guy has 30 male ball pythons selling for 50 bucks and he bought them for 3.25 each...females are the only thing normals are worth for now...they are cheap but as they get bigger they gain more worth....not many people hold back normal females right now ....right? what do all you guys do with ur normals....as i can see right now the normal....the one that started it all is one dimize....this also goes out to u evilmorphgod....you produce alot of normals....what do u do with them....Thanks all

JOhn
ZINGER REPTILES
I GOT BALLZ!!!!!!!!
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PHLdyPayne Oct 17, 2006 12:23 AM

man, if the petstore paid $3.25 per normal ball python and is selling them for $50, what a high markup that is....

Part of the reason normal males are not valuable (or are just so plentify for sale) is that people who do not buy ball pythons strictly because they just want a nice snake for a pet (ie don't want to breed, even for fun) don't see profit in keeping a bunch of normal male ball pythons. Much cheaper to buy a male morph (ie pastal, spider, other co-doms or even recessives) and breed him to a bunch of $50 (or less) normal females, than say, buying 5 normal male ball pythons and a pastal female, spider female, etc. and breeding one male to one female.

Course, the 'poor man's' breeding program could consist of one normal female and one normal male ball python, breed together, keep all female offspring, sell off all males for whatever they can for male babies (selling to people who don't intend to breed etc). After a couple years, sell half their one year and two year old females so they can use that money to buy a male pastal, then breed him to his remaining 2-3 year old females, selling pastal male babies and working up from there to other cool morphs.

Or, you can buy a bunch of really low cost male normal ball pythons and hope whoever sexed them really didn't know how to do it right or didn't know what to look for when popping (I do believe that females have pores or bumps that can pop out and look a bit like a hemipenis to somebody who really knows what they look like, or am I thinking of corn snakes), thus resulting in a couple missexed females.
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PHLdyPayne

reptilemadn Oct 17, 2006 08:32 AM

i was just saying yeah no one wants males because of breeding do u know how many of these get into rescues....i dont think any of the big breeders have one single male ball normal.....yep...

John
ZInger Reptiles
I GOT BALLZ!!!

morphed Oct 17, 2006 10:10 AM

I actually have 6 normal males.... They were dinking projects that i never parted with. Now i dont really use or breed them, but i dont have the heart to part with them.
Kim
N.A.R.C

kwnbee Oct 17, 2006 07:33 PM

I have little to zip knowledge of genetics, but it was my impression that to produce a morph you had to breed two snake with the desired morph together? Am I wrong?

Ex: Piebald x Het Piebald or Piebald x Peibald

So if this is correct then why would you breed your morph male to a normal female? Is this only for future intensions of breeding back to the morph x morph HET?

Sorry if this is simple to you...it's not to me???

--Does anyone know a good site to fully explain genetics? Or a site that explains the square thing (can't remember the name).

phantompoo Oct 17, 2006 08:59 PM

www.newenglandreptile.com

jcaustralia Oct 18, 2006 08:16 AM

this one is cool it is a visual so it may help you out it did me.

http://www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html

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