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My male lost interest in breeding.

RyanT Oct 17, 2006 03:35 PM

I started breeding my male cinnamon last month and he was off to a great start. He bred 3 females right in a row and I figured he was good to go. The last 2 weeks or so though he's totally lazy and has no interest. I put him in with one female that he already bred the other night and as soon as he was in the box with her, she started wagging her tail and pushing her cloaca out. He curled up in the corner and went to sleep. I know it's early and I'll probably be able to bring him around again but does anybody have any tricks they pull when this happens for them? I tried misting him today with a new female that he hasn't even bred yet but once again, in the corner asleep. I sure wish I had someone throwing me in with a new female to mate with every week. Little ingrate : )

Replies (9)

mistysprouse Oct 17, 2006 05:10 PM

hmm I heard once that wagging the tail was the female wasn't interested now if that is true or not I don't know. Could be the female was giving him a no signal. Try a different female if you still get nothing maybe you could try the male combat thing to get him in the mood(I haven't had to try that myself yet)
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midnightherps Oct 17, 2006 09:56 PM

WAgging the tail is the surefire sign that the female is ready and interested. If you want more proof just try feeding her. Chances are she wont be interested in food if youve witnessed tail wagging. She horney.

Logic would tell us that any female that is not interested would simply do nothing.
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RyanT Oct 18, 2006 10:34 AM

Yeah, she was definitely ready. And you're absolutely right about the feeding thing. She's my biggest female, up around 2800 grams the last time I checked. She never, ever refused a meal up until about 3 weeks ago when I tried to offer her a rat. I couldn't believe she wasn't interested. But it was nice to see because I knew she was where I wanted her to be. They're ready to go. He's just being lazy now. I'm gonna let him digest the mouse I gave him the other night and throw him back in in a week or so. Not too big of a deal. The season is young.

jyohe Oct 17, 2006 05:27 PM

breeding just started......winter didn't even come yet (unless you live in Buffalo,NY).........and there is 6 months breeding to go.........even if a female copulates for those 6 months she still may not ovulate till later than that........

........he'll be ok..........it isn't up to him....it's up to the females........

every time a girl sheds throw him in .......you'll see.......

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XtremeXteriors Oct 17, 2006 06:58 PM

with 6 females so far since the middle of sept. my pastel male wont breed the same female more than once within a 3 week period so just keep rotating him throughout your females. and during his break offer a small meal to keep up his strength. what is your ambient temp set at, my male pastel did the EXACT same thing last year I put him and the fems in a cooler room 76-78 degrees and it was ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN he bred them all every 3 weeks for 4-5 months

RyanT Oct 18, 2006 10:40 AM

The ambient temp in the room is around 75 in the daytime and 68-70 at night. The temp in the cages fluctuates between 70-80 or so throughout the day. With the basking spot never going above 90. The heat is on from 10AM-10PM. The temps seem fine. Everybody's responding well. The male just wants to be a pain in the ass for the time being. I'm sure it will all work out. It's not like I'm gonna give up on him.

midnightherps Oct 17, 2006 10:25 PM

My observation is that at introduction the males appear to not be interested right away but theyre not always going to go stragith for the gold like a colubrid. I usualy catch mine locked up realy early in the morning or real late at night. Guess it depends on how you look at it.

Heres my yellow belly already going this year.

And a look at horney females telling the world they want it. FYI to everyone.....the blood trails apparently dont indicate copulation....its just a sign the females are ready because they start bleeding everywhere with their tails in the air.

j3nnay Oct 18, 2006 02:03 AM

Try giving him a break. My male got real lazy and tired looking after a couple weeks with my girl, so I took him out, fed him, gave him a three week break with no lady action whatsoever, and he's perked right back up.

So definately try giving him two or three weeks of rest without any introductions to ladies, and see if you can get him to eat a rat or two.

~jenny
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1.1.1 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
1.0 rex rat (Scurvy)
0.1 bunny (Spazz)
2.1 betta fishes (Vicious, Killer, and Butters)
2.2 great danes (Shasta, Odysseus, Merlot, and Watson)
1.0 fat fuzzy mutt (Smokey)
1.1 cats (Thidwick and Turtle)
2.0 horses (Buddy and Sam)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
2.25 chickens (Jacques the rooster and his harem)

but what I really want is more ball pythons!

RyanT Oct 18, 2006 10:44 AM

Sounds like a good idea. That's exactly what I'm planning on trying. It's his first year and my second time breeding balls so we're just playing it by ear. I was just hoping he'd consistently rotate through all my females according to my schedule. I guess he has his own plans. It really wouldn't be as much fun without some challenge though, would it? Keeps things interesting.

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