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Hog Island Morph's...

skyfire_1 Oct 20, 2006 11:31 AM

I did a search for Hog Island Morphs in this forum and didn't find anything. I have a few snakes already, but no Boa's. I am going to get a Hog Island in the near future because of size, etc... But I see where the Common Red Tail has all sorts of morphs from Albino, Sunglows, Moonglow, Pastel, etc...

But what kind of Morph's do the Hog Islands have. I don't see many different morphs at all. Or do you know of a site I can go to, or dealer that does have any morphs of Hog Islands.

Thanks for reading all this and helping out.

Replies (9)

PMHerps Oct 20, 2006 12:13 PM

there are a couple of hog 'morphs'

patternless

sunset

sunset, reduced patterned & normal comparison shot

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ChrisGilbert Oct 20, 2006 01:27 PM

The reduced pattern Hog Isles from PMHerps is the only genetic Hog morph that is PURE Hog Island.

There are Hypo Hogs, Sunsets (Super Hypo Hog), Hypo Hog DH Ghost, and a few other crosses with morphs or locale crosses.
I know of crosses with Colombian BCI, Suriname BCC, and Peruvian BCC.

If you are just going with Hogs because of their smaller size, but want to look at other colors of boas, take a look at a few of these locale: (All are the same size or smaller, on average, than Hogs)
Cay Caulker
Crawl Cay
Corn Island
Sonoran
Nicaraguan
Tarahumara Mt.
Costa Rican
Panamanian

The above are B.c.imperator. But, B.c.sabogae, or Pearl Island boas, are also small.

That list has a variety of natural color varience, and a number of morphs as well. Just make sure you get PURE animals if you want smaller boas, a lot of these have been crossed with Colombians, or unknown lineage animals.
From the Sonorans you have Leopard boas and Sonoran Hypos (the Supers look like nice Hogs). From the Nicaraguans you have T-plus Albinos, Hypos, Ghosts, Type II Anery, and Motleys. There are also Blood boas, but make sure you find the full lineage and the adult size of the parents to the snake. The morph originated from El Salvador stock, and I do not believe there are any pure El Salvadors that are in the US that are NOT Bloods or Pewters (Double homozygous Blood and Type II Anery). Bloods from the Salmon line seem to be small as well, and you have the added option of Bloody Salmons. But there are some with a lot of Colombian blood in them and they will likely grow larger.

liquidleaf Oct 20, 2006 02:40 PM

Yeah, I was going to say, sunset etc would probably not be considered hog island morphs because of their "cross" status with normal BCI.

Hogs are definitely beautiful boas. They are what got me hooked into the boa obsession, and hopefully I'll have some pure hog babies next spring. That patternless is gorgeous! I have seen photos of reduced patterns before but not the patternless like that.
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Warren_Booth Oct 21, 2006 01:35 PM

Hi Chris,
On the sonoran side you forgot Type II anerythristics.

Image

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Dr Warren Booth
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ChrisGilbert Oct 21, 2006 03:23 PM

n/p

johnberry Oct 22, 2006 05:34 PM

and IMO a bit cleaner than most Type 2 NICS ... very nice. Have you proven them out yet ?

cheers, John
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Warren_Booth Oct 22, 2006 07:13 PM

Hi John,
Thanks for the comments. In regards to your question, yes I have proven them out. In the last four years I have produced 13 (2.11) anerythristics from my pair. Below is a picture of the female het that has produce them. I intend this year to cross them into my albino colombians to produce double het blizzards, then next year either to my het blood boa male or my het T+ive male.
Regards,

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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology
3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613

Sunshine Oct 20, 2006 07:28 PM

I love this snake! About a year old...from PMHerps.

Ain't nothing wrong with a normal IMP.

micahdenton Oct 20, 2006 10:44 PM

besides patternless but im not say anything tell next years baby hit the ground

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