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help withbreeding dart frogs

joeyo900 Oct 20, 2006 11:37 AM

i have a sexed pair od d. azureus have had them about 6 mo. the temps. in the cage go from 66-67 at night to 76-77 during the day i mist it every day to try and keep the humidity up i feed them every other day they are a good size eating good i have a half coconut with petri dish and try not to disturb them to much during the day except to feed them but still no breeding activity is there anything else i can do?
ps they live in a well planted 20 gal. tank

i also would like help sexing d tinctorius (surinam cobalt) they are fairly large and chubby i just cant for the life of me firgure out what sex they are

one more thing (lol) i have 2 d leucomelas males they both call i was wondering if anyone knew of somewhere i could find females of the same species or would it be best to buy a couple more juviniles

thanks for looking

Replies (5)

slaytonp Oct 20, 2006 08:26 PM

In my experience, the D. azureus lay eggs in the open on sturdy, broad leaves, not in a coco hut. Make sure they have an appropriate site with leaves that will support both of them. A pothos cutting might serve for this. You can try increasing the misting and feeding a little more often. Look carefully at their front toe pads. The male's will be somewhat broader, and to my eye, a bit more scalloped than the female's. Using this criteria, this can also be a clue with sexing other tinctorius (azureus are regarded by most as a morph of tinctorius, and not a separate species,) such as your cobalts, although this seems to be easier to ascertain with the azureus. And of course, males are generally somewhat slimmer and smaller than the females, and calling is a sign of a male, as you no doublt know. My D. azureus pair have been breeding and laying eggs for a year now, and I've never once heard the male calling, however. Perhaps this is because the female is always right in his face.

As for the leucs, since these fellows get along in groups very well, if it was my personal choice, I'd chance getting a couple more juveniles and hoping for a female, as they are relatively inexpensive. I don't know of any breeders who specifically offer sexed leuc individuals, but you could ask around. (Saurian, Black Jungle, etc.)
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
5 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

joeyo900 Oct 21, 2006 08:51 PM

thank you for the info. i have raised the humidity in the tank by misting more during the day and am feeding them more often hopefully it helps
i think i may have found a breeder in the area that might have leucs.
on closer examination i believe that all 3 tincs are females they are all about the same size non seem to have larger toepads : ( oh well they are easier to pair up then leucs lol

slaytonp Oct 21, 2006 09:28 PM

It's the males that have larger toe pads.

It's funny you should say your leucs were hard to distinguish sex-wise, because all of mine are pretty easy, at least as older adults, simply by body habitus. The males I've identified by observing them call, are all substantially more slender and a bit smaller than the obviously very plump females. On the other hand, since I've never actually observed what I've designated as a female by body habitus and never observing it calling, laying eggs--maybe I haven't really identified all of what I think are females correctly.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
6 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
7 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
6 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
6 P. terribilis mint and organe
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus
2 D. azureus
4 P vittatus
2 P. lugubris

joeyo900 Oct 22, 2006 09:22 PM

i was in a hurry to type that last message but what i ment to say was the tincs dont seem to have large toepades like i see on my male azures but all 3 resemble the female in body structure and thier toepads of course. i was hoping that with a 75% chance of having a 1 of each i would get one male at least, oh well

also both my leucs are males (chubby as they are) they both call

again thank you for your help i hope the azures start breeding soon

otis07 Oct 22, 2006 10:08 PM

feed them more often: full darts=happy darts=mating darts. hungry darts=not so happy darts=not likely to breed.

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