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Need help on an ID

vmartino Oct 23, 2006 03:49 PM

Ok this is my first bearded dragon, I am a boa guy, but I really like beardeds and they seem to be a growing trend. I just need help determining if this little guy/girl is a normal or if it is some other morph. Also i dunno if you can tell by the head at this age (5 months about) whether it is a boy or girl, but that would help. I have been content for the past month just taking care of it, as it has much different needs than snakes, but now i would like to get a little info on it.

Thanks
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Vince Martino

0.2 Colombian Red Tail Boas (Normal)
1.0 Albino Red Tail
0.1 Het Albino Red Tail
0.1 Nicaraguan Boa
0.1 Okeetee Cornsnake
1.0 Snow Corn
1.0 Amelanistic Born

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vmartino Oct 23, 2006 03:54 PM




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Vince Martino

0.2 Colombian Red Tail Boas (Normal)
1.0 Albino Red Tail
0.1 Het Albino Red Tail
0.1 Nicaraguan Boa
0.1 Okeetee Cornsnake
1.0 Snow Corn
1.0 Amelanistic Born

inthedeep2 Oct 23, 2006 07:23 PM

awsome beardie there looks like mine did when he was little, he is now a monster and is independant as ever..lol

mkco79 Oct 23, 2006 11:42 PM

hes adorable!! I dont know anything about morphs though i love his color on his back. (not saying its a boy)sorry I can help but welcome to the club beardies are awesome we love ours. Becarefull out there on the porch though ours is a jumper and they can be a pain in the but to catch...lol

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Mike & Wendy

2.0.0 Siberian husky, Jackrussel/schitzu
0.0.1 Ball Python
1.0.1 Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Beardie
4.0.0 Beta's
3.1.0 Future Herper's

vmartino Oct 24, 2006 10:46 AM

Haha thanks for the input, its not a big deal if i know what kind he is. My beardie is the calmest animal ive ever had, i can sit with him on my shoulder for hours and he will barely move, i love it.
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Vince Martino

0.2 Colombian Red Tail Boas (Normal)
1.0 Albino Red Tail
1.1 Het Albino Red Tail
0.1 Nicaraguan Boa
0.1 Okeetee Cornsnake
1.0 Snow Corn
1.0 Amelanistic Born

PHLdyPayne Oct 24, 2006 01:34 PM

No real clue on what morph he is, but a very nice dragon with his stripe pattern down the back. It is getting harder and harder to tell some of the morphs apart, as more and more are mixed with offspring being a mix of the parent's genetics and showing colors etc to different degrees. Yours looks like it may have a bit of lavender or red (blood?) in it. If possible, talk to the people you bought it from, they should be able to indicate the morphs of the parents (especially if they are breeders), Petstores probably won't be able to tell you who they purchased the dragon from or it's background.

As for sexing, the best and easiest way to sex dragons (especially since this one is still young and you don't have others to compare the head size to) is to hold it flat on your hand or table, facing away from you. Lift the tail upwards about 90% (don't force back further as this can hurt and injure your dragon). Looking at the tail side of the vent area. With slow careful twists of the tail slightly to right and left, you should see either a single bulge (female) or two bulges (male). However, young dragons are not as accurately to sex than older dragons but this should give you a good ideal what sex your dragon is. For pictures of the bulges, a google search on sexing dragons should reveal some.

Bearded dragons are much different to care for than snakes, requiring daily feeding (for youngsters, 2-3 times a day, more often for the younger babies then tapering off to just dailing feedings as adults. MOre insects for babies, more greens for adults). Also remember UVB lighting must be provided as well as proper basking temps. No heat tape and under tank heaters work great with bearded dragons, or semi dark racks as snakes can be kept in. However, dragons are well worth the extra work and care with their charming personalities, inquisitive natures and calm demeanors.
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PHLdyPayne

havic Oct 26, 2006 11:46 AM

Thats a great pic Mike and to the first post great looking beardie.
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Fourquet Oct 28, 2006 08:51 AM

Vince -

I personally am a snake person (mostly boas) as well. Its fustrating to me when it comes to dragon morphs because there is no real cut and dry standard. In snakes a hypo is a hypo, a motly is a motly, but in dragons you get a citris blast x clear nail georga peach x yellow and it can look like a normal. There are so many people slapping brand names on their dragons and not really keeping track of what is what, most if it is done on how an individual looks.

Why cant they just be snakes???
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- Mike Fourquet

Cloaca Herpetoculture
www.CloacaHerps.com

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