Well, it looks like i've already worn out my welcome. I was hoping to exchange tips on husbandry and be on the edge of genetic trends with leos by being here. However, i seem to be constantly contradicted by my helpful suggestions. I tried to defend myself when i knew i would come across as harsh but that failed so i guess i'm out. good luck with all your leo endevors out there.
p.s. maybe you should change the forum title to: i have a leopard gecko now what? and make pics mandatory while your at it. (jk)

Sam