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pituophis hybrids?

andyoconnor83 Oct 26, 2006 03:11 PM

I have seen a few pit x pantherophis or elaphe but i was wondering if someone can help me out. I once saw a pic of a kingsnake and gopher snake cross that supposedly happened naturally but CANNOT find it anywhere... anybody have any picsor hear of this cross being successful?

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bluerosy Oct 27, 2006 05:32 PM

The pic you are referring to was found in northern calif. It was a "natural" hybrid. It is not that unusual. This happens frequently on the west and east coasts.

andyoconnor83 Oct 28, 2006 07:29 PM

ok... do you know where that picture is?

goregrind Oct 31, 2006 04:53 AM

use the link in my sig to the hba, should be under natural hybrids
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zues)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

Eby Oct 29, 2006 03:08 PM

"This happens frequently on the west and east coasts."

I've always heard that the west and east coasts have always been more liberal than the "heartland". I guess this truism even applies to herps. LOL

Rainer -I tried to re-post the photos of this snake that you posted back on 7/7/06 (giving credit of course), but the links are broken.

bluerosy Oct 30, 2006 11:58 PM

Photo credit of J.P.



Eby Oct 31, 2006 08:59 PM

Thanks for posting the pics again.

That is one awesome animal.

Wonder how long it took for someone to ID it?

bluerosy Nov 01, 2006 10:33 PM

One look is all it took. Brian Hubbs who is the author of the big Mounatin kingsnake book and has another exhaustive book on all kingsnakes coming out was there when the snake was found. The pic has been on the field collecting forums (not KS forums) for a while and nobody doubts its validity.

Eby Nov 02, 2006 07:31 AM

Hope it didn't sound like I was doubting the validity. I certainly wasn't. I just know that I would have been scratching my head if I had caught it. I wouldn't have had the first clue (well, now I would).

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