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I just had a quick question for anyone willing to answer. In everyone's opinions, what is the best size tank/enclosure for two BP's? They have grown up together for a while, and I am looking into getting a more finalized caged for them together. I thought about a 75 gallon tank, but I am open to others opinions. Any help at all would be appreciated.

I think a 75 is a little big. they spend 90% of thier time in thier hides. Are the the same sex? I had two tegether in a 20 long and they were fine, but i had to seperate them because they were male female. the female was surpassing the male and was twice his size. It was not fun my male would eat for a month. Just started eating again. I have to let hem be with her out of the tanks for a little bit then he'll eat.. thirty gallon would probly be fine for them wnough room to stretch. and enough room for a few hides. Best of luck.
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I am currently keeping them both in a single thirty gallon aquarium...But I am worried that there will not be enough room for two full grown BP in there. I currently hold two hides, yet one will be to small quite soon. That being the reason I feel a thirty gallon would be slightly small for them...perhaps a fifty breeder...Still sort of new for these animals, yet I feel fairly knowledgable on them.

I apologize, that came out wrong...What I meant was that I am still learning, and trying to learn all I can. I studied BP's for almost three months before I recieved them, yet I know I am not an expert, which is why I have come to the best people to ask. I don't think I will breed these particular two, I prefer to keep them as a standard pet of sort. I would think they need a little more room to move around in...They are out of their hides almost 20-25% of the time...

Honestly they do not need alot of room. My one female i moved her into a twenty long she stopped eating till i moved her back into a ten. She is perctly happy in there. Eats great. Climbs on her hide at night. Its really you personal choice.
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If they like to move around much, then I would suggest nothing smaller than a 30 or 40 breeder. I like the 40 breeders (personal preference... they are just a little taller). I have 2 ball pythons who are hiders that live together in a 40 breeder flawlessly, but I have another that is also in a 40 that is out 70% of the time. He is always moving around and I am looking into a bigger tank for him because he just seems restless. I'd say the 30 you have them in should be good until they are fully grown, then you may want to upgrade if you still feel you need to. It is all about your individual snakes and their needs and wants. Some balls are thrilled to live in a cozy rack their whole lives, while some would prefer a whole house to themselves.

Is that a bottle of yager in your other tank? I think one of your snakes might have a drinking problem!
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My variable king is a bit of a lush.

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1.2 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
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2.0 horses (Buddy and Sam)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
1.25 chickens (Ugly the rooster and his harem)

"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." - Voltaire

I have full grown adults in twenty longs.I only have one in each, but there is plenty of room they are not the most active animales. Get what you feel comfortable with. Im sure fifty would be great for two..
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Thank you for your opinions and expertise. I appreciate the help. It's rare to find kind people now and days. I will continue looking at fifty-breeders and such. Perhaps I could take out thier trees and just keep the two/three hides and water dish.

Thank you for your kind words..LOL im no expert but im learning. As long as they have heat food and a hide and water they Re happy. Best of luck to you and your snakes.
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Even though it sounds like you have had good luck with them being housed together, it would be overall healthier for the snakes to be in seperate tanks. That way if one becomes ill you don't have to guess as to which one it is, and they may be feeding well now but all it takes is one stressful situation for them to go off feed. Good luck.
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Thank you for the advice, but I tried to seperate them, once seperated, they seemed to be less active, as well as went of feeding. But once they were reunited, they seemed almost eager to wrap around each other, and lay ontop of each other. They are quite the pair, and I believe less than a year and a half old...It seemed to me they prefered each others company.

The one problem I could see with housing them together is 1 hot side 1 cool side. they wont have enough room to be in the same spot at the same time once they get larger. So if they both want to heat up and you have an uth only one will receive the benefit of the heat. the other would lay on top but not receive the whole heat needed to digest their meals and so on. But I am no expert so please don't take anything I say to heart.
1 thing you could do in a 75 gall if you want is put in a divider with a good sized uth under the middle so both can have equal amount of heat if needed.

Just my opinion
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"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Trust me, any and all expertise and opinions are surely decided upon. I have thought about that actually, and another idea I have come up with is attaching the UTH to the side of the tank. Though like I said, I am far from an expert, learning more every day though.

I think, as long as they are not both males, you can leave them together.

I keep a display tank in my living room, and I rotate different snakes in and out for show. I will sometimes keep two large females or even several juvies (regardless of sex) in the tank and they are fine. They curl up together and seem to enjoy each others company. In the wild several may live in the same hole, even with different species of snakes I beleive.

Spreading a disease between them is always a concern, but if you keep the cage clean and the temps right, you should be fine.

There is risk in everything in life, enjoy your snakes.

Also, I would run one undertank heater regulated to 80 degrees off to one side of the tank then run a spot for basking during the daytime. In a large tank you may need additional night and/ or daytime bulb, you have to play around with it.

I have had bulbs blow out during the night and I have been thankful that the undertank heater kept them warm enough through the cold night, so its like having a back up heat source.

In a large tank like your talking about, I would put a couple hides in the hot and cold ends, or I like to use a large piece of driftwood for them to hide under. The larger snakes arent as skiddish about hiding once they are used to things.

Enjoy your snakes - treat them well.

Alan

Well said.. Enjoy them.
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It just hasn't been proven scientifically that Snakes feel the type of emotions that include actual thoughts of loss, or abandonment, or love or lack of. It has been proven however that in most cases it is detrimental to the animals health. I myself do not think it's worth the risk.
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