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CA box turtle?

spiny-rhiny Oct 27, 2006 06:15 PM

A customer at my work noticed a picture of my tortoise, and asked me for help. She found a turtle in her yard, and he has been living in her garden for a few weeks now. She sent me a picture of him, and I am 99.99% sure it is a box turtle, but I am unsure of the species. I've had many aquatic turtles and a few tortoises, but I know very little about box turtles, and google isn't helping much.

I just want to know if there are any box turtles native to Southern CA. I have a feeling he was someone's pet, and want to know what to tell her to feed him, and if she needs to help him hibernate.

She said he is missing a foot, and in the pic she sent it looks like he has a healed gash in his head...poor thing.

Any advice is appreciated, and if you know the species PLEASE tell me. Thanks!
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Replies (5)

simias Oct 27, 2006 06:31 PM

yes, it's a box turtle, an escaped pet. Looks like a 3-toed box. There are no box turtles native to CA.

spiny-rhiny Oct 27, 2006 06:52 PM

Thank you!

Should she bring him inside? Build a hibernation box? I have a feeling if it is more than she wants to do she'll either just not do it and he'll die, or she'll ask me to take him...I already sent food info for box turtles to her, but again it might be more than she wants to do.

Yeesh, hope she wants him. I'm up to my limit in pets having just adopted a dog (and already having a rhino ig, spiny tail ig, a red foot tort, and 3 ACF's, but KNOW I couldn't say no and let him die!

PHRatz Oct 27, 2006 09:54 PM

>>Thank you!
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>>Should she bring him inside? Build a hibernation box? I have a feeling if it is more than she wants to do she'll either just not do it and he'll die, or she'll ask me to take him...I already sent food info for box turtles to her, but again it might be more than she wants to do.
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>>Yeesh, hope she wants him. I'm up to my limit in pets having just adopted a dog (and already having a rhino ig, spiny tail ig, a red foot tort, and 3 ACF's, but KNOW I couldn't say no and let him die!

I'd say no to hibernation for this year... if it even gets cold enough where you are. I know it doesn't in some parts of CA.
Because it's not in great shape, hibernation could do it in.
Yes bring him or her inside, feed lots of good box turtle appropriate foods & get it healthy.
It does look like it's been through the ringer.
Let us know how this story ends!
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PHRatz

BigDawg Oct 27, 2006 06:43 PM

There a no box turtles indigenous to California. This one looks to be a 3 toed box turtle and really looks like it has been put through the ringer. Notice all the scute damage and exposed bone. Poor thing was probably attacked by a dog or wild animal.

Check out the attached links for more box turtle info and care:
http://www.tortoise.org/
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/terrapen.html#3toed
http://www.tortoise.org/general/boxcare.html

EMWhite Oct 29, 2006 12:12 AM

spiny-rhiny,
It would appear that the turtle in question is actually an eastern box turtle as opposed to a three toed. I say this because, the three toeds rarely have any coloring at all on their carapace. The one in the picture has yellow markings, which points towards an eastern boxie. However, one could easily tell by counting its toes.
There are no species of box turtles native to California, the one in the picture is almost certainly an escaped pet. As far a feeding it goes, a wide variety of fruits and vegetables, as well as worms, snails, crickets (these will need to be hand fed to the turtle), and mealworms can be employed as foodstuff and will be sufficient to meet its dietary needs. It should be fed about 2-3 times a week.
As far as hibernation goes, if the animals is eating, seems healthy, and is robust and active, I would reccommend hibernating it. You mentioned wounds on the shell and head, if these are healed and appear old, there should be no problems. To hibernate the animal, it should placed in a shoebox, or comparable item, with dry soil, leaves and moss, deep enough for the turtle to bury itself. She should then place the box it the garage where it will be safe from maurading outdoor animals. She should check it once or twice a week, look it over for signs of a respiratory problems. After the first several days, this should not be a problem. I only say this because I tried to prevent one of my boxies from hibrenating, he stopped eating and lost a lot of weight. He was okay in the end, but still.
If you need anything else, please post! Good luck!

Regards, EMWhite

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