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I had 3 (kahl strain) Sunglows stolen from me last weekend at the Texas Reptile Expo. All were roughly 30inches long and one of them had a striped tail. I also had 2 DH Sunglows stolend as well. One of the DH's had 7inch stripe on its tail. PLEASE IF YOU SEE THESE ANIMALS ANYWHERE on the internet PLEASE email me at texasexotics@earthlink.com or call 281-354-5224 ( leave name and number u can be reached. Heres 2 of the sunglows

I hope you are successful finding the person/s involved with the theft. That really freakin sucks.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
Boas make the world go round.

I hope you get them back.
Michael Burton

Thanks for the response Michael.

What does Bonnie do to control this stuff?
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Sorry to hear about it.. over the years there's been some of that trash.. the people that get caught could be in for a real tough time..
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com
www.riobravoreptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

Thanks for your response Gus, I hope they pay deerly.

Please post how this happened so sellers and future sellers on those shows would know if someone is trying to pull one on them/us. sorry to hear about this incident! -Jo Carlo

Thanks for your responses. As far as how this happened, the best that has been figured out is that someone stayed in the show and was hidding under a table and once all the vendors had left and all was clear they came and began taking animals.There was a door that had been checked from the inside and outside by the show promotor but later that night this door was found cracked open which had to be from the inside.

Craig

but probably can't because you had signed a contract, right? That's really lame and sorry for your loss. I hope you recover them.

Brett

there was no contract to sign, but they told me that they were liable.

Were you the only vendor with animals missing? If so why do you think you were singled out? I could see if you were the only one with higher end animals but surely there must have been other expensive animals there. Just trying to make some sense of what happened.

I had 3 sunglows and 2 dh het sunglows stolen they were all in one show case that they took. Jim mason of Bebo's burms had 4 dwarf retics het genetic strip stolen and Mike smith of IQW had 2 super tiger retics taken and Patricia woorley had a money bag stolen. So there were others that were hit also but there was plenty left behind there were stacks of spider ball pythons less than 2 feet from my animals, there was a show case of mine right next to the one that was taken that had 2 albinos and 3 dh sunglows in it, they didnt want that either and there was thousands of dollars worth of ball morphs and other retic morphs very easy to take but they didnt.Many of the animals at the show were not even hidden in just plan view such as adult albino balls and those were not touched but they took the time to remove a sheet and 2x4 to get to the hidden het striped retics and then take the time to put it back just the way it was,they took the time to open and remove several dehlies and remove the show case that had my sunglows in it from my roller cart. these people had a plan, they knew exactly what thye wanted.

That's what I thought. No doubt here are people that scope out everything making note of who has what that they want. In this case I'm willing to bet it very well could have been one working with one of the vendors there that had plenty of time to make the rounds. Do you have a link that shows what vendors did the show? Maybe it sounds crazy now but in the future if other animals are taken at other shows a pattern or common link may be found.
I remember when there was an animal stolen at Daytona of 2003. There was a special section here at Kingsnake saying, "thank God the cameras were rolling", etc. complete with picture of the animal but the actual name of the boa morph was never even mentioned. I think it was taken from Chicago Reptile House? Whoever it was, I wrote them for more specifics on the stolen animal but they never got back to me. IMO the more information put out there the better we can keep our eyes and ears open to help recover stolen animals.

I will get a list of the vendors that attended the show and post that tomorrow. Your right the more it is exposed the more likely something will come out of this.
Thanks again for your responses.

Did you go to the police?
If the promoter was the last one out, I would question his involvment with the theft. It's suspicious that he did'nt make you sign a contract waiving resposability. You should talk with a lawyer, especially since we are talking so much money.

Sorry to hear about your loss, and I will keep my eyes out for you as well.

Jasonmc

a litrtle closer. If it was my show I would have stayed behind and MADE DAMN sure there was no one in that building and there was a security guard there ALL night long. Promoter should be held liable.....

Thanks for the response. Yes the police was called out as soon as it was discovered that there was a brake in.there is a full scale investigation taking place hopefully some will come of it.

sorry to hear about your loss. they sure were pretty. I was there saturday morning and stopped to talk to you. When did they end up going missing? I live in central texas so i'll keep my eyes open.... good luck.... Jon Runde
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1.1.1 breeding pair blue tongue skinks w/ juv. offspring
1.0.0 Juv. Albino Bullfrog
0.0.2 Giant Pixie Frog (one juv. and one adult)
1.1.0 Clawed frogs
1.1.0 Albino Clawed frogs
0.0.1 Superlight juv Sulcatta
0.0.2 Fly river turtles
0.0.2 Savannah Monitors (one pastel)
0.2.0 juv pastel Columbian boas
1.1.0 monster pink pastel columbian boas
1.2.0 Hypo Hog boas
1.0.0 Hypo boa
1.1.0 Hypo boa babies, Poss. DH sunglow
0.2.0 Hypo poss. DH sunglow
1.0.0 Coral albino boa (my baby)
and
1.2.0 Pomeranians (the wifes babies)

The best that can be figured is that they were taken between 5:45pm -9:30pm saturday night no new anything until Sunday morning when we got the show.

Sorry, they said they were not liable.

Man, that is so pathetic and really burns me! I'm sorry to hear of your loss and I really hope they turn up somehow or you find out who the thieves are.

Thanks for the reponse. I diff. keep posting info on the results of finding the crooks.Everyone needs to know who they are.

I hope they find who did this and stick it to'em! Good Luck Bro!

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Jason Gonzalez
PreMeditated Morphs
www.PreMeditatedMorphs.com
Jason@PreMeditatedMorphs.com

Thanks, I just hope that the Arlington police dept is inspired enough do a good job. thanks again for your concern

Thats a bad lick,sorry for your loss.
BUT! knowing the area like I do and the behind the scenes info
that trickles thru the grapevine never has been very positive about most of those thieveing bastards in the DFW area.
Some have 4 digit incomes and still STEAL !

What goes around always comes back around.

Best Of Luck

M/

thanks for the response. Yeh, that might not be best place for a reptile show.

Its not so much the place but the entire area !That place is over 60 freaking miles west to east!!
I lived out there for 22 years and couldnt be more happy to say it in past tense context.Metro areas as a whole really dont suit me.The concentration of Real World proves to be something I can live without.

M/

>>thanks for the response. Yeh, that might not be best place for a reptile show.

Thanks for the reponse.

np

A thief is nothing but trash. I used to work in law enforcement and there was always something about a thief that burned my a**. People work hard to get something and then these people just come and take it away. If the perps are reading this, you may have gotten some expensive animals but you are still the dirt on the bottom of my shoe. If these cowards are caught hopefully the same thing happens to them that use to happen to the scum we caught. There was this nice corner behind an old warehouse, no cameras, no one could see from the highway...oops, did I say that?

I am not even sure what to say to this other than I will be on the lookout. It always hurts when a hobby that is already persecuted by many has those from within it ruining for the rest of us. I hope the perpetrator/s are caught and that the punnishment fits the crime.
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Just wanted to ask.. How in the hell did someone manage to walk off with three good sized AND VERY EXPENCIVE snakes and no one noticed.. I'n not trying to be judgemental, But maybe protect myself in the future.. AND GOOD LUCK I HOPE YOU DO GET THEM BACK..