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hello all i was recently told some info and am curious what other people think what would be the result of crossing a albino colombian male and a nic, common female ?

Uh, Hets.
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>>hello all i was recently told some info and am curious what other people think what would be the result of crossing a albino colombian male and a nic, common female ?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

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And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Yep. If you breed an albino to any snake that is not heterozygous for albino, you will get normal-looking (well, in this case normal BCIx Nic crosses) that are all 100% heterozygous for the albino trait.

It takes at least two generations of breeding to get anything "different" from a cross like what you are talking about - you might get something cool looking if you bred the 100% het offspring to each other, then you'd get albinos that might have a Nic influence in color. That's a few years waiting and work though. That's why we're just now seeing albinos that have BCC blood, those projects were started years ago and are just now producing albino babies.
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Lauren Madar
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oh was just wondering cause someone told me you get that caramel albino but im not sure

Unless I'm mistaken, in order to get a caramel albino (T ), you'd need the Nicaraguan snake you were using to have that in it's bloodline. Not just any old Nicaraguan mated with a 'regular' albino will produce a T albino. If it were that easy, they would be everywhere.

However, I wonder if the T (caramel) albino morph is compatible with either the Kahl or Sharp albino morph, or if it's a completely separate thing. I don't know enough about T .
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Lauren Madar
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I typed Tplus (the symbol for plus) - but in the post the plus sign got deleted. So anywhere you see (T), I meant Tplus.
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Lauren Madar
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Whoops. The forum didn't like the plus signs I used. T should be Tplus but the symbol didn't appear on my last post.
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Lauren Madar
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Doh. Today isn't my day. Sorry for the duplicate post.
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Lauren Madar
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A few months ago there were several connected threads on the kingsnake.com boa forum on crossbreeding Sharp albinos with boawoman caramels (AKA boawoman hypos) to produce an intermediate form that the breeder was calling paradigm boas. As I recall, present belief is that paradigms have a boawoman caramel mutant gene paired with a Sharp albino gene. There are similar situations in corn snakes and black rat snakes.

Below is a link to a recent post on the history of boawoman caramels. As far as I know, these are neither the snakes that VPI calls caramel albinos nor the snakes often called T-plus albinos. At the moment, I don't have time to do an extensive hunt for the older threads. Good luck hunting.

Paul Hollander
Sharon Moore's boawoman caramel history

well i got a female nic breding with a kahl line colombian albino can update with the results if anyone likes i think it shouuld be intresting considering how dark the nics can be

let us know what sort of results you get.

Paul Hollander