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I hope this ceases now. Fall is here and breeding rituals will start for me by the end of the week. Last year I put my very first holdback in with an equally immature male to see what happened and nothing came of it. This season I will try again with the same now mature and robust enough pair. Hopefully, I'll get a litter from this pairing. I am excited about this pair because it will be the first time I have raised from baby to adult a breedable pair. Also I am pairing up my BH female (once proven by me) to my male that has thus far fathered all my litters. Waiting for 3 years to have a real shot at this is teaching me patience.

Lots of stuff is different here now. Almost all the snakes are in commercially made snake enclosures, most have Herpstats ND and a few still have Rancos, all are on paper substrate with moss hides, all eat f/t, and all of them have less handling (this needs to change). The more precisely the environment is controlled the less the margin of human husbandry error allows. This concerns me since I feel up to this point a certain degree of pure "beginner's luck" was responsible for what I would call success. Strangely, with all the "better" stuff it is all so precisely controlled that I feel more responsible for the outcome. Immaculate observation and daily adjustments have been pushed aside for the sake of modern equiptment. I fear that with less for chance and more for exactness I will not fair as well this season. Maybe this all sounds odd, but with 21 years of professional (not with reptiles) management animal experience. I believe that ultimately whatever I can conceive of doing and/or do only allows whatever will happen to happen more effectively. Maybe that sounds wishy-washy, my experience supports that statement entirely. It is only my experience however. Snakes are snakes and will do as they do regardless of what I do. My only purpose is to treat them as well as I know how to do and can do so that their captivity is as pleasent as can be and hope that their environment is suitable for their reproduction.

I paid up for a KS Classified Ad account and can't decide which PRB's and BRB's to try and sell! And I want Ambilobe Chams? I am absolutely insane. Is there any hope for me?

Can you tell the difference in these snakes? Hmmm...

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Linda,
...Those two snakes look a lot alike. The one facing to the right has thicker and darker markings. The true Chameleons are really neat animals. I think the biggest downside to keeping them is that some of them require quite a bit of time with misting and feeding. Lots of breeders got into them and found that taking care of babies was more work than they had time for. I have a friend who has bred several different species and he tells people to get a male Veiled or Panther as a pet and never ever even think about breeding Chams.
Jeff

>>I hope this ceases now. Fall is here and breeding rituals will start for me by the end of the week. Last year I put my very first holdback in with an equally immature male to see what happened and nothing came of it. This season I will try again with the same now mature and robust enough pair. Hopefully, I'll get a litter from this pairing. I am excited about this pair because it will be the first time I have raised from baby to adult a breedable pair. Also I am pairing up my BH female (once proven by me) to my male that has thus far fathered all my litters. Waiting for 3 years to have a real shot at this is teaching me patience.
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>>Lots of stuff is different here now. Almost all the snakes are in commercially made snake enclosures, most have Herpstats ND and a few still have Rancos, all are on paper substrate with moss hides, all eat f/t, and all of them have less handling (this needs to change). The more precisely the environment is controlled the less the margin of human husbandry error allows. This concerns me since I feel up to this point a certain degree of pure "beginner's luck" was responsible for what I would call success. Strangely, with all the "better" stuff it is all so precisely controlled that I feel more responsible for the outcome. Immaculate observation and daily adjustments have been pushed aside for the sake of modern equiptment. I fear that with less for chance and more for exactness I will not fair as well this season. Maybe this all sounds odd, but with 21 years of professional (not with reptiles) management animal experience. I believe that ultimately whatever I can conceive of doing and/or do only allows whatever will happen to happen more effectively. Maybe that sounds wishy-washy, my experience supports that statement entirely. It is only my experience however. Snakes are snakes and will do as they do regardless of what I do. My only purpose is to treat them as well as I know how to do and can do so that their captivity is as pleasent as can be and hope that their environment is suitable for their reproduction.
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>>I paid up for a KS Classified Ad account and can't decide which PRB's and BRB's to try and sell! And I want Ambilobe Chams? I am absolutely insane. Is there any hope for me?
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>> When the student is ready, the teacher appears. When the student is ready, the teacher appears. When the student is ready, the teacher appears. When the student is ready, the teachers appears.

Your my second strike on the cham thing....I'm gonna walk away from that idea before I'm out. It a good thing reptile shows don't come to Lubbock. There's no telling what I might come home with.

Thanks.

Linda,
...I think the bigger chameleons are amazing. I did not get into them solely because I become obsessed with trying to captive breed every reptile I ever get. If you can be the kind of person who just gets one as a pet the Veileds are not so expensive and should be an easy pet for you. The reptile hobby is currently looking at the Panthers as the hot ticket but a male Veiled is almost as impressive and they are often available for much less money.
Jeff

>>Your my second strike on the cham thing....I'm gonna walk away from that idea before I'm out. It a good thing reptile shows don't come to Lubbock. There's no telling what I might come home with.
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>>Thanks.