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Male GTP

charmer Nov 08, 2006 09:31 AM

Hey all,
Just a silly novice question. I've been raising and breeding snakes for awhile... I purchased, as a male, a gtp, a bit back.
Then I purchased, as a female, another gtp. Upon being introduced... the 'female' began to court my 'male'. I noticed a couple hours after putting them together as 'she' spurred and eventually managed to get my 'male' to loosen up and allow 'her' to join their vents. I cannot see the hemipenes... but my 'male' is allowing it all.
IS it possible that BOTH breeders incorrectly sexed my gtps? I know they can be difficult to sex. I am going to be taking my 'male' to be resexed by MB reptiles, my local reptile specialist. I am nearly positive, given the 'females' reaction and courting of my 'male' that she herself is definitely a male... so it is my hope to discover the true sex of the 'male' i've already had this whole time. I read that males are territorial... perhaps 'he' is just submissive to this new male?
Opinions please!!!?
Thanks all!
Stephanie S.

Replies (3)

MegF Nov 08, 2006 09:48 AM

It's possible that they were mis-sexed, especially females. They get mis-sexed more often than males. If they are hooking up, I suppose it doesn't matter which is which. I'm surprised you never noticed sperm plugs or larger spurs on the male. Spurs aren't always and indicator, but usually you'll get a sperm plug with a shed at some point. Just as long as you figure out which one looks like the pregnant female at the end....

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charmer Nov 08, 2006 12:57 PM

Do you think, since there is no aggression, that the submissive previously believed to be male, is a female? Does a submissive male ever allow another male to 'court' or lock up with him? It is obvious which one is the sexually aggressive one... but is it likely that they are both confused or more likely to be that there is one of each gender?
Stephanie S.
ps- thanks for replying... it really is helpful to get input from one with more experience with gtps...

MegF Nov 08, 2006 04:09 PM

I'm really not that experienced but I wouldn't think that a male would allow another to attempt to mate. I'm sure Shiloh or some of the other more experienced breeders will be along with some advice soon, or you could try the Morelia viridis forum.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
1.0~Zigzag Bubblegum~Bazooka Joe
0.1~Neon het motley~Lumiere
1.0~Lav het motley/hypo~Storm
1.1.2~Green tree python~Whisper, Tempest, Surprise,Fuego
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
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