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Mostly patternless Goini/Brooks cross. Check out the black belly in the second picture!

this is a 06 girl i picked up in Daytona this year it is Goini x brooks(hypo)

Man thats a really sweet King. I like the high band count and the orange color. Goins King and Brooks King make mix make for pretty babies.
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Big Jack Bronson

That is a sweet lookn' snake. Prime candidate for a timeline a few years down the road to see how her pattern turns out.

reako45

if all gos well this will be her mate,he also is suppossed to have Brooks blood hope its hypo!Rainer if your reading this do you recall if HYPO was the snake used from Sheila

Honestly I don't recall what she said about your snake.

All I was focused on was the ridiculously low price you paid. LOL!

i literally laughed out loud without spilling my coffee.LOL

I have an '05 1.0 Goini (Eekus) that looks very close to yours. When I got him, he looked like a bronze bracelet in his deli cup. Now he's over 2 feet and the black skin between his scales shows more. So now he looks more like a tan gleg in black fishnets. Very cool :^)

What's a gleg?! LOL!
Todd Hughes

That's a very nice looking snake!

Brandon Osborne

You oughtta know, since you produced it! Remember "Gold"? Taking large fuzzys now. Hey Brandon, you always use the term anerythristic for these guys and I know you produce axanthics and ghost. What is your take on the use of those terms? Is there a difference in the origins of these traits in your projects?

Nice Score on that female... i've been looking at it for weeks, just didn't have the cash to spare... can't wait to see what she turns out like...

~ZF
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Royal Blue ReptileZ
Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

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"Hey Brandon, you always use the term anerythristic for these guys and I know you produce axanthics and ghost. What is your take on the use of those terms? Is there a difference in the origins of these traits in your projects?"

I think Brandon uses the term anery for the same reason i prefer it. Lloyd Lemke also used it.

Look at the neonates. They are red. Anery = mostly red snake
axanthic = mostly yellow snake.

But both terms are correct and can be used interchangably.

BTW Brandon used a Lemke anery floridana (aka axanthic) for the breeding. Nothing different there..

Thanks. And obviously the reds etc are het, not anerythristic. I was asking for the gazzillionth time, not cause I wasn’t happy with the answers I’ve gotten already, it’s that my little Goini/Brooks is 66% chance het anerythristic (Brandon’s lingo) and I’d like to prove it with a ghost(axanthic/hypo) female that is also from Brandon originally. I just wanted to make sure those alleles would line up in that breeding. I think Lemke was the first to describe the axanthics as looking like “black and blue wax” or something like that? I have some ancient price lists around here somewhere from a lot of places that are going to be collectors items someday!

I remember the blue wax description. I have some of Lemeks old lists packed away in the attic. I will have to get them out one day.

I think it was '92 when Lemke had a large yearling axanthic male on his table at the Orlando expo. It stayed there all weekend and he had to pack it home with him. Its amazing how nobody paid attention to it and bought the common stuff they knew about (bannana cal kings, bloodred corns ect). I don't think much has changed today with new morphs. It take a few years for people to catch on and the price goes up.

what happened to that red Patternless male... keeper?... any updated pix?

~ZF
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Royal Blue ReptileZ
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That snake doesnt look right in the pic. My guess would be dead in the egg....J

Nope. Actually, it was a joint breeding project with a friend of mine. His female laid 4 good eggs and became eggbound. Of the 4 egg, 3 hatched and the solid red one was in it. As luck would have it, it never ate and eventually died....about 2 months after hatching. But you are correct in that it is dead.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon, there are a few things about that pic that doesnt look right...and why is it the full term dead in the egg babies are ALWAYS the best of the clutch?? Jeff