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After long wait (61 Days / 83f). I opened the incubator and 4 eyes are looking at me.
N. Tom, Thank you for your help .

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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

Awesome!
How many eggs did you get? How old were the parents? Will they all be Albinos?
Thanks

How many eggs did you get? 7 good 1 slag
How old were the parents? 3 y/o
Will they all be Albinos? I can only see 2 heads but belive they all albinos.

Pic of the parents and egg.

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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

That's great! Congrats!!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.3.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Baird's Rat Snake
0.1.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
2.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.0.0 Western Hognose
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.0 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

Yeah, congrats, definately! 2 of the 3 snakes pictured in the box are the parents of the babies? How long did you brumate them for?

reako45

2 of the 3 snakes pictured in the box are the parents of the babies? Yes. the second female is 2 y/o

How long did you brumate them for? 3.5 Month

Gai.
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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

Thanks Gr8snake,
I just picked up 1.1 06 Albino Sonorans and I plan to breed them in a couple of years. Excuse my ignorance but does that mean that they will be ready to breed in 08? Will I get all Albino or 50/50? Anyone?

I just picked up 1.1 06 Albino Sonorans and I plan to breed them in a couple of years. Excuse my ignorance but does that mean that they will be ready to breed in 08? --I waited 3 years.

Will I get all Albino or 50/50? Anyone? -- I belive you should get all albinos, but let the "expert" answer this one.

Gai.
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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

I would actually wait until 3 years, as pits really need to be fully mature and big enough to handle the eggs. Females go thru a lot with egg laying.
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Genesis 1:1

How are the Albino Sonoran Gophers temperment? Are they a feisty snake?

It all depends on the individual snake. To my knowledge, from what others have said about theirs, and my experience with mine, they are calm and from what I have seen, sonorans overall are not as prone to be hissy as bulls or pines.

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Genesis 1:1

...where do you get all of these beautiful snakes, Billy? (mind if I call you Billy?)
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.3.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Baird's Rat Snake
0.1.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
2.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.0.0 Western Hognose
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.0 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

Yeah, call me Billy!
I got this albino sonoran at the ETHS show in 2000. He was already an adult and was only $50.00. Yes, that was a score!
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Genesis 1:1

Unbelievable! That is definitely the very definition of "score"!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.3.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Baird's Rat Snake
0.1.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
2.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.0.0 Western Hognose
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.0 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

Thanks man! I know! That snake was the exact colors of an albino sonoran gopher that I had been looking for. My wife actually picked him out. The seller had about 10 adult albino sonorans for sale, and I had about settled on a pastel pinkish-red and yellow one, when my wife noticed this one that I had overlooked.

I had to ask him to repeat what he said when he said it was $50.

I could not believe it. It was one of those moments you will never forget picking up your dream snake at a snake show and for a great price.

One thing I absolutely love about albino sonorans is how vast they can be with coloring. You can have 10 babies in front of you and they all can look different.

Take care!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

It's great that your wife is into the herp thing also. I am also blessed to have a wife with the same interests!
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Diego

Diego & Tiffany's Zoo:
SNAKES
4.3.0 Corn Snakes (Different morphs)
1.1.0 Everglades Rat Snakes
1.0.0 Baird's Rat Snake
0.1.0 Trans-Pecos Rat Snake
0.1.0 Amel Pacific Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Het Amel San Diego Gopher Snake
2.1.0 Sonoran Gopher Snake
0.1.0 Amel Sonoran Gopher Snake
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
2.1.0 Gray Banded Kingsnakes (River Road)
0.2.0 California Kingsnakes
0.1.0 Thayeri Kingsnake
0.1.0 Florida Kingsnake
1.0.0 Boa Constrictor
0.1.0 Dumeril's Boa
1.1.0 Rosy Boas (Mexican & Mid Baja)
1.1.0 Kenyan Sand Boas
0.1.0 Indonesian Dwarf Pacific Boa
0.1.0 Tangerine Honduran Milksnake
1.0.0 Honduran Milksnake
1.2.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Woma Python
1.1.0 Cape York Spotted Pythons
1.1.0 Macklot's Pythons
1.0.0 Western Hognose
0.1.0 Blacktail Cribo

LIZARDS
1.0.0 Frilled Dragon
3.1.0 Bearded Dragons (2 Normal, 1 RedXGold, 1 Citrus)
0.1.0 Eastern Collared Lizard
0.1.0 Merauke Blue Tongue Skink
1.3.0 Leopard Geckos
1.0.1 Yellow Niger Uromastyx
1.1.0 Chuckwalla
0.1.0 Banded Gecko

FROGS
2.2.0 Southern Bell Frogs
1.0.0 Green Tree Frogs
1.0.0 Striped Walking Frogs
1.1.1 White's Tree Frogs

Well, your wife may be into it more than mine..lol..but yeah, my wife was looking out for me and had heard me tell her exactly what I was looking for. Her attention to detail in that matter really paid off! She is too good!!!

She puts up with me and the snakes. Out of respect, I only have 41 at this time instead of appr. 100 if I got everything I thought was pretty.
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Genesis 1:1

Billy, that Sonoran of yours really caught my eye. I hadn't seen any Albinos that resembled the baby I just picked up. I really like that combination of colors.
I just picked up a mate for it and will take delivery in December.

Oh yeah!! That one pictured is perfect! That would be a baby I would buy if I was looking for one!! He may resemble or be similar to my adult male.

I love that baby's stark red contrast!! Good pick!
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Genesis 1:1

I agree, I have w.c. normal and C.B. albinos. My Sonoran are more calm then my pines or my bulls.

Gai.
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1.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher
2.0 W.C. Sonoran Gopher
2.2 Leucistic Texas ratsnake
2.3 W.C Okeetee Corn
1.1 Abbt line Okeetee Corn
1.2 W.C Miami Phase Corn
1.1 Sinaloan Milk
1.0 Orange Pueblian Milk
1.1 W.C Mexican Black King
0.2 C.B Mexican Black King
2.0 W.C Cal King
1.1 C.B Cal King
0.1 Durango Mountain King
1.0 Desert King
1.3 Northern pine
1.1 N.J White pine
2.4 Black pine
2.2 kankakee Bull
1.2 Bearded Dragon
45 Tanks full with African Cichlids.
Many Mice, Rats and feeder Roaches

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