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Looks like the season is rolling on track with a few of this weeks hook ups. Should be a good season this year by the looks of everything. Hope you enjoy.
Thanks David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
congrats on the lock-ups but didn't I read somewhere that feeding with 2 snakes in the same cage is the WRONG thing to do, oh wait no I didn't, it's basic husbandry common sense.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles
Various Ball Pythons:::
1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males
0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns
a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!
Guess what? I have been doing this for a LONG time with NO PROBLEMS ----AS I watch my snakes very careful when feeding....DUH.... I think your not supposed to feed them while they are breeding either but guess what...I DID..... and guess what else...I watched them very close....Duh again...LOL... If this is taken WRONG then so be it...
Thanks David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
if that's what you like to do then so be it, but it isn't a sound husbandry practice. soooo many things could go wrong in a split second. let's seee, the male could get excited and rip his hemipenes out and ruin him for life as a breeder. The male could slowly make his way up to the female and BAAAMMM he strikes and throws a quick coil and breaks the females neck. he could strike and grab the females head and permanently damage her or kill her. after eating the rat when you aren't watching like a hawk, the female could catch movement (which is the males head) and she strikes it and coils it and kills him after all it smelled like a rat in the cage and the male was moving so it must have been a rat.
That female appears to be very healthy and waiting a day or two when they weren't locked up would have been a much smarter move to make. But then you wouldn't have had this spectacular picture to show off, RIGHT?
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles
Various Ball Pythons:::
1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males
0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns
a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!
Oh, believe me, you will regret it when you take your eyes of them for a split second and your big females mistakes your males head for the rodent. That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Do you house your Boas and python's in the same 10 gallon fish tank aswell? You need to do some reading.
Dustan
Dustan, this must be flame week, Is everyone this angry this week? I think it would have been better for some of the people on here to ask questions before they flame someone for a picture. As you can see BOTH ball pythons in the picture are very healthy...RIGHT, Well with that said I know for 100% that my male Yellow belly would not take a FROZEN THAWED RAT, He only likes LIVE and since IT WAS A FROZEN THAWED RAT that I put right in front of the females face, I knew for 100% sure I had nothing to worry about. Not to say this is breeding season and most males slow down on the feeding responces they have when in with females. Dustan, I would do some research before you tell someone to do some reading, I'd be willing to bet that I have been in the reptile business for atleast twice as long as you and have kept/bred more snakes than you will ever think about keeping. If you have been on kingsnake you should know that I have been around forever and I am not some NEW person on here, I have had a kingsnake account since the year they started. But anyway I don't owe anyone anything so you all can think what you want, My thing is get the facts before you go flaming, And getting the facts mean ask question to find out if I put MY snakes at risk, and I do NOT believe I did since I know MY snakes after all they are MINE and I do believe you should know what your snake WILL and WILL NOT do, And in this case that Male Yellow Belly would NEVER have tried to eat that FROZEN THAWED RAT while breeding NEVER. Happy Flaming.
Here are a few pictures of eggs from last season. ENJOY
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
wow. it just doesn't make sense to me to feed while they're in the same cage. even if you're watching closely, why take the risk? you could eliminate ALL risk by simply feeding them separately.
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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa) 
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo) 
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)
1.0 Argentine Black and White Tegu (Roy)
Hey Dave, do not worry, last week everyone piled on me about how messy my clean cages looked! What a joke! Most of the people who "pile" on probably have never even bred a Ball, or even kept one, so take it with a grain of salt man. They probably had to go back to their 1992 Ball "Handbook" to check if you could feed two snakes at once..... Good luck with your projects, and send me a few female YB's! When an animal looks skinny, sickly, then complain...
Dave
I have been around for quite awhile, bred a multitude of species for right at 20 years and other than blurry pics, I have never said anything negative about or towards you. However, on an open forum posting pics of two snakes in a tub with one eating is irresponsible. One would have to be crazy to say that NOTHING could happen. There is a risk just like there is a risk that we take when we feed live rats (and I do feed almost exclusively live), I was just pointing that out. I've seen males that got startled and almost tore a hemipene off trying to get away, I've seen snakes get mistaken for rodents and get eaten. If I ever critisize another keeper or give advise its because of experience that I've gained and not info that I've read.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles
Various Ball Pythons:::
1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males
0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns
a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!
I understand the part of you trying to help someone that knows only what he reads. But that is not the case with me. I have been doing this for years and years, I almost always feed LIVE as well, The only reason I am even feeding a few snakes frozen thawed is because I got a killer deal on some frozen stuff. Let me ask you just one question do you actually think I would risk my BREEDER male Yellow belly if I did NOT know for 100% that is was a safe situation? I am also wonder what kind of SNAKES you are talking about, I thought my picture was of ball pythons and we all know that they are snake eaters...LOL...I have NEVER had another ball python eat or even grab another ball python and KILL it. I am not saying it will never happen but like I stated before if you KNOW your snakes then you should know what ones you can do what I did and what one you cannot do it to. If I remember correct someone else posted a picture a while back of a male feeding while it was breeding and I don't remember him getting flamed. Like I said the rats was a FROZEN THAWED and the if you look at the photo the males head was tucked under itself. But anyway thanks for the flaming...LOL
The picture of the mojave breeding my HUGE FEmale that lays 11-12 eggs is this season, Her laying the eggs is last year, Last year she was bred to my yellow belly male, This season it will be a mojave. Enjoy
Thanks David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
on another forum of a female cinnamon EATING the male cinnamon that she was with. Canabalisim can occur with out feeding 2 snakes in one tub.
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In Loving Memory of the best Brother God gave me
Sgt. Arnold DuPlantier II
(Army National Guard, Charlie Rock Co.)
06/03/1979-06/22/2005
Support Our Troops
Dave, I know how Most/Some of the people on here are, I always take what they say and disregard it, But I do try and set them strait so they don't keep making the same mistake. I understand about the picture taking because you cannot always take pictures of the snakes breeding with spotless cages but like you said they probably have never even bred a snake. Good luck with all your projects. I know I have some interesting stuff for this season.
Thanks again
David
Owner of Snakebstr's Reptile House
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
to snakewhisperer.....since you know exactly what you're snakes are thinking at all times.....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles
n/p
Funny you should say that because I was thinking of it already. Later David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
So here is mine. When I looked at the pics I wondered what the thought process was. I don't oppose you doing what you did. We all seem to know our snakes or pets pretty well. We seem to think we know what they will do or won't do. We know their habits, temperments, feeding responses, what they like to eat and so on. What you don't know is who is going to look at those pics and think they can do that same or similar thing. So, my only thought was that it might be a good idea to explain how uncommon this practice is and that it shouldn't be attempted without years of experience.
There are a ton of inexperienced people and kids on this site that just lurk and browse. I don't think its fair to them to show pics that might lead them to believe or try something that is above their capabilities.
Chris
I agree. if you are doing something that is not recommended by the majority of herpers, it is responsible to state," yes I know you aren't suppoed to feed them together, etc, but..." It just lets people know that you aren't a begginer who has no idea what he/she is doing.
I have snakes who go nuts when they feed, and I barely trust them not to bite themselves, much less me or another snake during a feeding, so i would not be able to do that because I am sure someone would end up hurt eventually. If your snakes are fine, then no worries, if any accidents do occur, you will be the responsible one. As long as you can accept that and aren't encouraging others who may not know their snakes as well as you do, I guess i can't say anything aside from I think it would be better to wait until they are in separate cages to feed them.
I understand what you are saying, But that is kinda crazy. That is like saying don't show a horror movie because someone MIGHT try and do what they have seen. YES, This might happen but then again they might decide to do it anyway...TRUE or False? I never said GO DO THIS....Or did I. If I showed a picture of me jumping off a bridge would you say oh he shouldn't have shown that photo because now people will go jump off bridges, That is INSANE, I see people doing alot of stuff but that doesn't mean I am gonna try it...Does it? I understand where you are coming from but if someone sees me do something and they do it then that is not my fault. Enough said...
Now back to my motive, Well I opened the cage and saw them locked up and decided I needed a good flaming so I got a rat out of the freezer and wanted to freeze my snakes mouth off so I put it infront of her nose and wham she grabbed it, then the male decided he wanted to eat a frozen rat and grabbed it and her head and begun to break her neck, so I got scared and jerked them apart only to relize it was the wrong end, by the time I relized I had ripped them apart from breeding the male snake had already swallowed her almost to her tail, So I remembered the tail whipping thing and decided to try that and when I whipped the female and the male let her go and they are both doing fine, wheew that was a close call, oh yea did I mention before I flipped out I grabbed the camera to get this wonderfull picture.
Thanks David
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WRONG... The only time I was WRONG is when I thought I was WRONG but I was really RIGHT.....LOL...LOL...LOL
LOL!!!
I think this post is great for everyone....
From an outsider looking in..this seems to me as if other Parent is telling you how to raise your childern, which is TOTALLY WRONG.
Good Luck David!!
Nick
That was great LMAO!
of feeding his snakes while they were breeding..... the female went after the rat so hard that it ripped OFF a hemipene.... OFF!!!! Why risk it???
They are your animals and you can do as you please with them but it just isnt a good idea to feed while snakes are breeding and its a horrible idea if they are locked up.....
Hope everything works out for you...
Raul
Do you people have nothing better to do with your time than worry about how someone else takes care of thier snakes? I mean really... It isn't your business what he does, or how he does it. If what he does works for him, so be it... if it isn't how you would do it.. Great... don't do it, but keep it to yourself because all it does is get a response from the owner. If that is what you are looking for, you got it.. Opinions are like.... well you know the rest...
There are alot of new breeders that look to this site for USEFUL information.If I posted a picture of two ball pythons in the the freezer and argued I am an expert and this is how I cool them down would you feel the same way.I think we need a Stupid is as Stupid does forum.Terry
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