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Saw a pair of these advertised, never heard of them before.
Thanks.

It is a madagascan hognose. They are considered "hot" in some states now (like FL ) There are 3 from Madagascar: the Giant, the Blonde, and the Speckled.
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Jenea

2:3:1 Tricolor Hognose (plus babies)
4:2 Eastern Hognose
1:2 Western Hognose
0:2 Southern Hognose
0:0:3 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
1:2 Eastern Fence Lizards
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

They are completely legal to own in Florida without a permit. I keep all three species and listed them on my breeders permit with no problems.

I heard at the FIRE show that they had just been put on the venomous list, and now required other than the class III permit.
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Jenea

2:3:1 Tricolor Hognose (plus babies)
4:2 Eastern Hognose
1:2 Western Hognose
0:2 Southern Hognose
0:0:3 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
1:2 Eastern Fence Lizards
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

They have all ways been classified nonvenomous in Florida (at least as far back as I know). They are not listed as a genus requiring a venomous permit under the new proposals (http://myfwc.com/captive/Docs/68A-1.004RDNLanguage.pdf). I also know of dealers id Florida who still sell them as nonvenomous. If something has changed it's news to me (and a few others).

It was only 3 weeks ago that I was told this, from a dealer that sales them. He said that was why he didn't have any at the show. Guess I will do some research, as that was one of the species I was really looking to get.
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Jenea

2:3:1 Tricolor Hognose (plus babies)
4:2 Eastern Hognose
1:2 Western Hognose
0:2 Southern Hognose
0:0:3 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
1:2 Eastern Fence Lizards
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

I saw those, too. They are pretty, but didn't look very "hoggy" to me.

Nanci
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0.0.1 Normal Corn, 0.0.1 Cali King 0.1 Nelson's Milk
0.0.1 Eastern Hognose, 1.0 Eastern Box Turtle
0.0.2 Desert Torts, 2.0 Feral Pigeons

They are very hognosed to be honest, a great friendly,inquisitive snake that i have workedfor 5 years and not been bitten or even come close to being. I think they are great and i managed to breed them last year.

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www.hognose.co.uk

Heres a baby hatching

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www.hognose.co.uk

Close up

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www.hognose.co.uk

Thank you so much for sharing your pics; especially of the babies hatching. At one time I had 1.2 leioheterodon. One successful breeding.

This is a great species--very mellow and inquisitive. My male very gently takes f/t rat fuzzies off of tongs. He kinda' opens his mouth and precisely grabs the nose. He seems to like it if I stabilize the rodent until he has a good grip. My females fed much the same.

I've seen many offered at reptile shows in the past several years. Almost 100% are imports, and I wonder about the impact of collection on wild populations. If they remain legal to keep, perhaps more people will work on establishing cb breeding populations.

rgds,
althea

Thanks! Which one did you breed? mada.gaeyi or modestus?

Im working with all three at the moment.
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www.hognose.co.uk

I worked with leioheterodon geayi. The camera shy fellow posted (I caught him on the slither), sired a litter with a regular colored female. He is much lighter with a lot of white in his base color. Only one of the five hatchlings' colorations resembled the sire's. Interesting.

I've never kept modestus. Are they similiar to geayi in temperament and behavior? My male likes layers of newsprint with which to create his own world on top of the aspen substrate. He also burrows in the aspen, then has tunnels in the newsprint. He also enjoys a good soak a couple of times per week--always sheds in one beautiful piece.

I'd like to learn more about your husbandry, if you are willing to share. Not many people keep them, so it's nice to have a discussion when meeting up with someone who does.

rgds,
althea