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G. janseni integrade

nydon Nov 28, 2006 03:34 AM

I had not made it back here since I posted my first entry to this forum a week or two back. I noticed several entries both to my thread and another more recent thread that discussed the Gonysoma species. I was happy to see others interested in these species and had never considered using them for a hybrid project until i read it here.

I thought some of you may get a kick out of a G. janseni I got in some time ago. I since have sold it but dug out a pic of it. When I imported it as a wc adult I was told that it was thought to be an integrade but the exact locality was not known. I did not even think about it but I am wondering if that is even possible since blacks are Seleyar and black/tans are celebes. Does anyone know if there is a location where both forms exist.

Anyway, the point is mute as it is gone, but i will still take a look at the species and consider possibly using them in some future projects (hmmmm, perhaps a tan/black with an
Elaphe taeniurus). Just a thought.

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chris_harper2 Nov 28, 2006 01:49 PM

I remember seeing that picture in the past, I assume we have discussed it before.

I suspect that is just a "normal" G. janseni as a huge number of highly variable and bizzare G. janseni were imported from Sulawesi and surround archipelego in the past ten years. Importers describe this species as a highly variable snake. However, there may be someting of an intergrade zone among some of those islands and perhaps that snake originated from there. It seems highly unlikely that G. janseni is limited to just the islands of Sulawesi and Seleyar.

Regardless, I do think that Gonyosoma would work for some of your interests.
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Current snakes:

0.0.1 Gonyosoma oxycephala - Java locale (green)

1.2 Gonyosoma oxycephala - Jave local (green)

2.2 Gonyosoma janseni - Seleyar locale (all black)

1.2 Gonyosoma janseni - Celebes locale (Black & Tan)

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