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I watched the girl leo and she went it to her laying box. A few minutes later she came out. We checked the box and there were two eggs, but they both were collapsed. We opened one and found a small gecko. Did she not have enough calcium? She was in with a male so I think they were fertile. How do I make sure they dont collapse again?

Thanks,
Adam Hallquist

hmmmm
is there even an "small baby" in an egg that quickly?
Im not sure on that one...but if there was..you just killed it when it might have hatched.

No it was somethings though. We didnt kill it the egg had already collapsed. Do you have any answers to my questions instead of oh boy?

Thanks,
Adam Hallquist

Like how old the leo is, her weight, did the egg look white or clear?
Just because she is with a male doesnt mean the egg is going to be fertile.
Couldve been a calcium problem, or maybe she is too young/small...who knows...tell us more.

She is 14 months and was being fed wax worms. She is with another male that is at least 9 months and about the same size in a 20 gallon. We fed the waxworms in a dish with MINERALL powder in it. Thanks for the help!

Thanks,
Adam Hallquist

1- Waxworms as a staple diet is about the worst thing you can feed them.
2- Are you sure the eggs were just laid? Because if you cut them open and there was a baby formed already then those eggs were likely in there for a while, with not enough moisture, which would explain why they collapsed.
3- I wonder how much research you did on the geckos before getting them, and if maybe there aren't other problems with their care and maintenence?
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Sam
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There was no baby inside!!!! It was just something like stuff. I didnt personally open it. Yes it had just been laid and yes I know what I am doing. You did not help! Waxworms are bad! thats great what am I supposed to do about it why dont you tell me that? I am trying to ask a simple question. Can anyone out there help me?

Thanks,
Adam Hallquist

How about you grow up, take some responsibility for the geckos in your care, and do a search on Leopard gecko care sheets? There are literally thousands of websites out there with the info you need, spend some time and look for them, which really is something you should have done BEFORE you got the geckos! And as far as you knowing what you are doing, I'm not so sure that is an accurate assesment.
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Sam
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People are trying to help you.

A staple diet of waxworms is not good, too much fat not enough nutrients. A good diet is to feed a staple diet of gutloaded mealworms daily and calcium/vitamin dusted crickets 2x a week. You can gutload both prey items on a mixture of bran, oatmeal, soy protein powder, bee pollen, spirulina, calcium, and carrots. make sure there is a dish of pure calcium in the enclosure at all times. Msake sure the lay box is kept moist.

Good luck

Thanks for explaining it to me. Sorry, Geckos Den maybe you should just try to explain it instead of just pointing out my wrongs.

Thanks,
Adam Hallquist

See what lovely children we get to work with. Andy, if you get on the internet and look up "leopard gecko caresheets" 1000 people will be happy to help.

Oh yeah. Don't yell at us, Thats what your parents are for.

Jeff

To show that housing male and female leos together is risky. ONLY house them together if you are willing to deal with the risk of breeding activity and make sure that the female is up to it.
Speaking of breeding...good luck to all of you who have eggs incubating or eggs on the way (my two eggs from Beanie have only been cooking for a week and I am already excited (too bad I have to wait until June/July to see the babies!!!)

Adam, I can understand that you might feel angry and defensive when someone is just "pointing out your wrongs", not explaining, and not addressing the concern you raised. on the other hand, please understand where geckoden is coming from as well. many of us on these forums get rather alarmed when we hear that someone is breeding leos but is, in our opinion, neglecting some of the "basics" like proper diet and nutrition. most likely, it wouldn't hurt to browse a few care sheets no matter how long you've been herping or how much you know because you can always learn new little tidbits of knowledge. angry posts (from either side) don't help anything and just cause a lot of bad feelings. I know from experiences on other forums. as to the concern you raised in your post, your eggs most likely dented as a result of inadiquite humidity. its gotta be the right blend between to little moisture which causes denting and too much moisture which causes mold. there are many excellent sites that detail the incubating and hatching process quite well that I have found useful. Sorry for the long post and I hope this helps!