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A wild social pic, rattlesnake pic

FR Dec 16, 2006 08:32 PM

A few weeks ago I found a reverse trio of rockrattlesnakes. Not on our study site. In a close by mountain range.

I found them in the evening. Two large males and a female were coiled in the setting sun. They males were both mature and strong. The female is gravid.

As I approached one male took off into a crack, The female then moved and coiled on top the other male. I found this very interesting. Cheers

Replies (17)

FR Dec 16, 2006 08:33 PM

enjoy

Aaron Dec 16, 2006 10:18 PM

Nice pics Frank. I have what I believe is a reverse trio of C. viridis living on a hill near me that I have watched occasionally for two years now. One of the (presumed) males is almost always under the same tin as the (presumed) female and the other (presumed) male is occasionally with the (presumed) pair. Before that in 2003 and 2002 I only saw the (presumed)female on that hill with no males. She has grown about 12 inches since I first saw her and I am just waiting to see some babies start showing up.

antelope Dec 16, 2006 10:28 PM

Nice report Frank. Why do you suppose she was sheilding the male, if that was indeed what she was doing.
Todd Hughes

crimsonking Dec 16, 2006 09:34 PM

A beautifful pair Frank! I assume the other male was as nice looking.
You are lucky to have such animals near you.
Hope your Holidays are filled with great sights like that.
Here's an east coast buzzer....

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FR Dec 16, 2006 09:57 PM

I got bit in the foot by one of those. Good thing I had my snake boots on(I did). I was on my way home for working at Ross Allens, way back in the day, 1970 I believe. I lived in the middle of Ocala National forest at the time. Nice pic, thanks

kingsnaken Dec 16, 2006 10:10 PM

You need to quit teasing me with pictures like that. One day I'll get an EDB pic like that or die trying. Well not the dying part, but I'll try real hard. I hope next year I have as much luck snake breeding and herping as I did this year. Every body have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!! Derek

Lindsay Dec 17, 2006 08:32 AM

I usually have trouble finding even one rattlesnake but saw these two a couple years ago in a Tampa area park.
Image

kingsnaken Dec 16, 2006 10:14 PM

Man, that was a great find! Are they usually gravid this time of year? Congrats! Derek

fighterpilot Dec 17, 2006 01:35 AM

Heres the southern pacifics i found

Dobry Dec 17, 2006 10:21 AM

Nice pics Frank,
Since everyone is posting Crotalus pics, here's a few from a den I study.

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rbichler Dec 17, 2006 11:47 AM

>>Since everyone is posting Crotalus pics, here's a few from a den I study.

Cool Pictures;
What part of the country or state was that den picture taken in?
R Bichler

Dobry Dec 17, 2006 12:06 PM

They are Northern Pacifics from WA state. That particular den is on the Columbia National Wildlife Refuge in Central WA near Othello. It is an amazing site to see. I've seen at least 50 snakes there in one day.
Cheers,

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rbichler Dec 17, 2006 12:22 PM

np;
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Brandon Osborne Dec 17, 2006 01:48 PM

Nice pics FR. Here's one my fiancee' and I stumbled upon a few months ago. One of my favorite native herps.

Brandon Osborne

FR Dec 18, 2006 10:18 AM

Great pic, but the biologist say, "they are not social". Hmmmmmmmm I think biology needs a new word for reptiles being social. biologist often tell me when I show a pic like yours, thats just a nice place to sit(convienence). So they all sit there. Its not about being around others. If that were so, then they would be soical and we know they are not. hahahahahahahahahahaha

How does a science that can launch rockets, be so friggin dumb about reptiles. Cheers

kingaz Dec 18, 2006 02:07 PM

"Great pic, but the biologist say, "they are not social"."

Which biologists? Your post assumes that all biologists agree with each other. There have been several papers written by biologists about social behavior in reptiles (including snakes). I agree with you that many snakes show social behavior that is not related to mating or brumation, and many biologist agree as well.

FR Dec 18, 2006 07:24 PM

Where did I say "all"? I never said all. It is the excepted belief that reptiles are not social animals. Of course, I disagree. And yes, so do many other biologist.

I do lots of work with varanids. Varanid biologist are as backwards as it gets, in this area. Yet varanids are amoung the most social of reptiles.

They are constantly telling me monitors are not social. They are not soical like mammals and such. So I ask them to come up with a word that means the same thing as social does with mammals, only for varanids. hahahahahahahahaha It surely doesn't have to be the word social, but one just like it. Cheers

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