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Hi there,

I am from Quebec, Canada and I am doing a presentation at my herp association on Giant Milks... I have grouped hondurensis, andesiana, gaigeae and micropholis as part of this group. I would like to have nice pictures of every subspecies for the presentation. I already got some nice pictures of Hondurans, Andeans and Black milks in my other thread a couple of lines bellow. I would like to know if those who posted pics there would give me permission to use those.

Also, if some of you have good micropholis pics, I'd be very happy as they are far from being well known. And it's hard to find good pics of those.

Anyway, thank you for your time... My presentation is on january 13 so feel free to post till then!

If you don't want to post you pics here, you can e-mail them to me at : the_only_nir@hotmail.com

Thanks you in advance!

you have my permission to use the pics I posted.
Also,you can't leave out abnorma and polyzona.They also reach lengths of six foot and maybe more.
I have a six foot polyzona.I have heard of six foot plus abnorma but I don't have any pictures.
I also have some pics of micropholis but they don't belong to me.
My Micropholis are still young and aren't a large bloodline anyways.

Heres the polyzona.

Shannon

Shannon--are any of the offspring growing as big as the parents, and if s who has them? I think all of us would like a large Milksnake. TK

I bought them as adults and had bad eggs from one female and only three good eggs from the other this year.Only one egg went full term and never hatched so I cut it open to find a fine looking full formed dead in egg baby?

Maybe next year.So,to answer your question I don't really know for sure.I assume they will grow large as the eggs were large and the male is a brute at over six and one female is right at six and the other is about 5 1/2.

Shannon

What about Louis Porras offspring from that huge 8'. How long ago was that? Anyone else have history?

I don't think he ever bred that snake. I could be wrong but I never heard of offspring available anyway.
Shannon

this is not my picture but has been posted many times.Its Louis Porras holding up possible the largest milk ever caught.Its a bit over eight foot and is Hondurensis.

Shannon

here is another one of my larger hondos.This is a very large female.She is very close to six foot and she weighs in at 1600 grams.She is gravid in this picture.
Shannon

one more I forgot to mention.
You can't leave out stuarti as they also grow over six foot.
This is a pic taken two years ago when I first got this girl.She had just laid eggs and now is nice and robust.Anyway,I bought her as a andean milk LOL....
She is a tad over six foot and eats half grown rats.

Shannon

Here is a picture of one of my gaigeae. He's right around 6 feet long. I've seen pictures of larger gaigeae out there though.

Dave

DNS Reptiles

Thanks for the pics and the input on the other subspecies! It's really appreciated.

... Nice distribution map that shows the speculated range for current subspecies?

I'd love to give a bit of natural history in my presentation.

Yes, you need to find a copy of Kenneth Williams monograph entitled "Systematics and Natural History of the American Milksnake, Lampropeltis triangulum". On page 12 of the second edition is a good overall map you could use.

Scott

Thanks, that looks like it's going to be hard to find! hehe

I'll do my best.