Don't know what happened to this animal, but I acquired this pic while going through some files. It was taken in 1997 in China. Bad pic, but still neat.
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture
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Leucistic Elaphe mandarina pic
Justyn
Dec 20, 2006 10:41 PM
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beau
Dec 20, 2006 10:52 PM
that and at least 1 albino were put up for sale in hong kong in mid/late 90's
im not sure if they were ever bought. the price was around 7500usd and they wanted up front money.
Justyn
Dec 20, 2006 10:59 PM
Wonder what happened to them? Is Zhijun Zhan still doing business?
>>that and at least 1 albino were put up for sale in hong kong in mid/late 90's
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>>im not sure if they were ever bought. the price was around 7500usd and they wanted up front money.
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture
www.IntenseHerp.com
beau
Dec 21, 2006 01:05 AM
dont think so. They were offered and advertised heavy in europe. Could be here? Hard to say, I can ask the main dealer in HK abd see if they know..
jfirneno
Dec 22, 2006 06:29 AM
I'd much rather have access to really nice looking hypos than either albinos or leucistics. I mean the mandarin's beauty is really the color and pattern. Other than reducing darkness from melanism in the lighter areas of the pattern I really wouldn't want to eliminate the pattern. I know a lot of people disagree but a leucistic texas rat, to me, looks a lot like what a leucistic mandarin would look like (only bigger and a lot less shy). But it would still be interesting to see what other genetic factors are hiding out in the mandarin population.
Regards
John
>>Don't know what happened to this animal, but I acquired this pic while going through some files. It was taken in 1997 in China. Bad pic, but still neat.
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>>Justyn Miller
>>Intense Herpetoculture
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bertgrit
Dec 23, 2006 01:56 PM
I completely agree with John here. The beauty of the Mandarin ratsnake lies in it's pattern and colourscheme. The combination of yellow, black, grey and red is what makes these animals so beautiful, imho. Save for hypomelanism there's no mutation that can improve the looks of this snake, imho.
Regards,
Bert
beau
Dec 24, 2006 10:02 AM
here is a picture i was sent before.. one of the nicer hypos ive seen..
jfirneno
Dec 24, 2006 11:14 AM
That snake is definitely one I would want to get into a captive gene pool. Breed that to a pretty Sichuan and you will probably lighten up the ground color. If there was a breeder in China (not just an exporter) who identified locales and cherry-picked healthy, attractive mandarins and either stabilized them and made them available or bred them himself and sold cb's then we would have a much more interesting situation.
Regards
John
I think this guy might have some of that gene going on in him.
