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I was going through some old prints of stuff I used to have and found this pic.I had a pair of these "patternless pines" back in (91 or 92).I had bought them from Randy Wright but I am not sure of their orgin.
Anyway,they were pretty close to luecistic and I think this is one of the steps that created the "luecy" pines we see today.

I will tell you one thing,they were the meanest snakes I have ever owned.

L8r Shannon

That is a nice pic of a pic of a Pit for sure. I agree with your comment too. I think through selective breeding that Pits may "advance" faster towards a goal as we have seen this kind of stuff in Bulls too. Does Randy still work with Pits?? Thanks for posting. Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

You said that the patternless pines were the meanest snakes you ever had. I am just wondering why certain morphs of one kind of snake could be meaner than the other. I've heard that certain bull, pine, gopher morphs vary in temperment, and I can understand two different kinds of snakes (northern pines, southern pines for example)having different temperments, but I don't understand how different morphs of the same kind of snake could have such varience in temperments. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thank you in advance for your replies.
Ken

Actually when I agreed with Shannon it was about the Pits being line bred to make a completely patternless white-ish snake that some think are true Leucistics. My Pines are completely tame. I have heard of a few snakes [not just Pits] that always seem to be high strung and nasty but I do not often relate it too morphs. I think all snakes are individuals, and it is also the husbandry you apply to them that influences their attitude. People tend to be irritable if they're too hot or cold...the same goes for snakes. Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

My patternless pines are the tamest pines that I have. They do have good feeding responses but all of my southerns in any morph are pretty laid back.

Scott Robinson

I see Randy W. w/ mostly Rosys and a few other snakes @ shows out here in SoCal. Don't know where else he gets out to, but that's mostly what I see him with. Oh, yeah, @ the Anaheim NARBC show he had some Speckled Kings, and I almost bought a pair, but they looked to be of a different locale than the one I've already got.

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