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Maybe you guys can help me out on this.
I'm a newcomer to corns, only had them for maybe 3 years.
They are colorful, easy to care for, friendly to a fault, plentiful, and cheap as $15 at the local shows.
They have good to very good feeding response, keep in small enclosures well, and are somewhat hardy and forgiving of husbandry errors.
So, why are color morphs necessary?
Why pay lots for multiple redundant traits that just look different or special (As in, expensive.) when they don't look like they're worth the rise in the price of admission?
I understand different strokes and all that, but what's so wrong with regular corns?

turn out the way you'd like........

i like the morphs for variety. i'm sure you will see my never ending list. but when i'm breeding and the petshop asks if i have anything else. personally, when i was younger i liked the amels. b/c well, i was a kid and a girl and they seemed girlish. NO OFFENSE TO THE GUYS OUT THERE. but thats what i thought. say for example your favorite color is purple(since that is my fav color) there are lavendars not really purple but muted. VERY pretty. Maybe you like green like my husband. there are green snows. i have a pic of mine, but it doesnt show the green too well. if you'd like to see the pic i can post it. it really depends on the person. dont get me wrong i love normal phases. but once theres a zig zag trait thrown in i'm a sucker. sorry for rambling..
~kin
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~Sober Serpents~
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Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude) [just a pet...she started it all]
1. Orange normal (Romeo)
1.2 Miami Phase (Hector, Emily, Charlotte) thanks jeff!
2. Miami Phase part zigzag (Starkey, Mcvitty)[Emilys F2]
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury) .1 Blizzard (Detta)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy) [Emilys F1 babies]
.1 Amel (Pepperoni) .1 Orange Reverse Okeetee (Lonna)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss HET Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Hypo HET Stripe (Gracie Lou) 1. Hypo Stripe (Gideon)
1.1 Anery HET Motley (Lleroy, Persia)
.1 Candy Cane (Peaches HoneyBlossom) [Just a pet]
1. Abbotts Okeetee (Albert) [Charlottes son]
1.1 Snow (Crickle, Isis) .1 Green Snow (Maya)
1. Caramel poss HET Butter (Topher)
.1 Anery stripe (V) [husbands snake...he named it]
1.2 Bloodred HET Amel 1. Amel HET Bloodred

Others:
1.1 Black rats (Willard, Cecily)
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Dweezil, Skunky)
1. High-white Reverse Spotted Cal King (Wishbone)
.1 Albino Stripe Cal King (Eve)
.1 Bananna spotted/stripe cal king (Speckle) Thanks Jeff!!!
1.1 Thayeri (Giuseppe[MSP], Cheyenne)
1.1 Creamsicle HET Motley(Orangejello, Genevieve)
1. Creamsicle motley (no name) Thanks Jimmy!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 Blizzard (Blitz)
.1? High yellow (no name)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLES~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
.1 snapping turtle (no name, ideas welcome)

As always, I get so tired in the daylight hours that I lack the lucidity to express my self with the desired precision. I'm nocturnal.
I guess I'll use an example.
Take a cal king. Black and white.
Hardy, agressive, friendly, a great snake, but they're black and white. Price of admission=low, just a bit more than a normal corn.
Now a corn. Cheap and colorful.
Now, a morph, a anery honduran hypo.
We just went to a medium priced (More than $50), and it's still black and white.

Now a snow hondo, price, medium to high, as most hatchlings are $100 . Now it's not even black and white anymore, just white.

While hondos are cool snakes, they certainly aren't as friendly or forgiving as a basic $15 corn or $25 cal king.

A lot of people feel the way you do. I like the morph's but I also have local specific snakes that will have local specific offspring. This is a fun hobby for those not into the morphs. I am getting a pair of Scottland County, NC corns soon and hopefully some Suwanee County, Fl from Home Grown Herps. This is one fun way for a hoobyist to go if you don't like the morphs.

>>Maybe you guys can help me out on this.
>>I'm a newcomer to corns, only had them for maybe 3 years.
>>They are colorful, easy to care for, friendly to a fault, plentiful, and cheap as $15 at the local shows.
>>They have good to very good feeding response, keep in small enclosures well, and are somewhat hardy and forgiving of husbandry errors.
>>So, why are color morphs necessary?
>>Why pay lots for multiple redundant traits that just look different or special (As in, expensive.) when they don't look like they're worth the rise in the price of admission?
>>I understand different strokes and all that, but what's so wrong with regular corns?

Yes, normal corns could possibly be described as the perfect snake....BUT....people always have and always will enjoy variety.

That is basically the long and short of it.

Take automobiles for instance.
There is no difference between the white one, black one, blue one or red one.. BUT, not everyone wants the color we drive and we obviously don't want the same color as EVERYONE else or we wouldn't have bought the color we did.
There wouldn't even be a selection.
They would all be the same color, body style..etc...etc

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Normal & local specific animals will always be my favorites. And I do have quite a bit in my collection.
I keep many snakes that some people wouldn't give a second glance at a show. Emory rats, eastern kings, speckled kings, Eastern Black kings (not Mexican Black) and garters. Cornsnakes are the only snake that I've strayed from the norm and purchased morphs. And even with cornsnakes you can be sure I have several normals thrown in the mix. The only other exception is my axanthic florida king.
I think most corn folks have a deep appreciation for normals, where as I don't get that same feeling in the ball python community.
Steve

I have seen some that I like, especially most okeetees (sp) and some that I don't care for. I have one that I wasn't all too fond of. But after a shed or two, it's looking nicer and nicer.

Hey Steve Craig (or anyone else),
What is an "axanthic" florida king? I haven't heard of that type of genetic "morph" (or whatever it is called). Would you post a picture of it please or put up a link to a pic that is already up?

Sorry for the hijak caz223
Rob
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own" Adam Savage
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn
0.1 Creamscicle corn
0.0.1 Normal corn
0.1 Black Pine
1.1 Bearded Dragon

Here's a couple of pics of an Axanthic Florida king.

>>Here's a couple of pics of an Axanthic Florida king.
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own" Adam Savage
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn
0.1 Creamscicle corn
0.0.1 Normal corn
0.1 Black Pine
1.1 Bearded Dragon

You have to agree that it would not be that much fun if there were just one type of anything...

I think that variety is what makes this hobby tick.

~ Mike

>>You have to agree that it would not be that much fun if there were just one type of anything...

I agree. My problem is when I see different morphs, I say "I want one of those and one of those, no, two, and one of those....."
Right now I only have enough room for the 5 snakes I have.
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own" Adam Savage
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn
0.1 Creamscicle corn
0.0.1 Normal corn
0.1 Black Pine
1.1 Bearded Dragon